Can Sohei Monk and Scaled Fist Monk be combined?


Advice


I have an idea for a Dragon Disciple

4 Sorcerer/Monk (Sohei x Scaled Fist) 1/Dragon Disciple 10/Eldritch Knight 5.

or Should I go for Sorcerer 2/Monk(above archetypes) 3/Dragon Disciple 10/Eldritch Knight 5


No, they can't be combined because they both modify Bonus Feats.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

You can't be Sohei and Scaled Fist as both modify bonus feats.


but the only thing that Sohei does to Bonus feats is that it added mounted combat feats as additional options.

The Exchange Owner - D20 Hobbies

2 people marked this as a favorite.
Mako Senako wrote:
but the only thing that Sohei does to Bonus feats is that it added mounted combat feats as additional options.

When archetypes alter, adjust, add, remove, replace, enhance, expend, augment, revise, advance, innovate, modify, shift, switch, transform, correct, distort, remodel, or look at funny then they don't stack.


Mako Senako wrote:
but the only thing that Sohei does to Bonus feats is that it added mounted combat feats as additional options.

Doesn't matter.

Relevant FAQ says that adding extra subjects (such as more spells per day, or less spells per day) or changing options (such as adjusting what bonus feats you can pick from) counts as altering the entire feature, and therefore won't stack with other archetypes that do so.


Mako Senako wrote:
but the only thing that Sohei does to Bonus feats is that it added mounted combat feats as additional options.

Yep, by the rules even if they both add the same thing it doesn't stack. For instance I know of archetypes that don't stack because they both add the SAME skill to class skills...

I wish it was a bit more flexible myself but those are the rules.


ok


Mako Senako wrote:
ok

If this isn't for PFS or something like it, ask your DM if they'll allow it. Often, they will not mind it if different aspects of an ability are 'modified' and allow it. It can't hurt to ask. ;)

Scarab Sages

It is a reasonable house rule to allow them to be taken together, but by the FAQ they don't stack.


James Risner wrote:
Mako Senako wrote:
but the only thing that Sohei does to Bonus feats is that it added mounted combat feats as additional options.
When archetypes alter, adjust, add, remove, replace, enhance, expend, augment, revise, advance, innovate, modify, shift, switch, transform, correct, distort, remodel, or look at funny then they don't stack.

"Look at funny" made me ugly laugh.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Advice / Can Sohei Monk and Scaled Fist Monk be combined? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.