Primal Scream Duration and Other Questions


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So I was reading over the rules for the spell, primal scream, and I am confused about two things,

The rules are as follows

SRD wrote:


School abjuration [mind-affecting, sonic]; Level bard 4
CASTING

Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
EFFECT

Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 round/level

DESCRIPTION

You voice a mighty yell from the depths of your soul, invigorating yourself and dispelling enchantment and paralysis effects. This functions as break enchantment, except it only affects you and only frees you from enchantment and paralysis effects. If the caster level check to break the hostile effect succeeds, you give voice to your scream and the spell takes effect normally; if not, this spell fails without further effect. You can cast this spell even when paralyzed or unable to speak because of an enchantment effect, but not in an area of silence, if you are unable to speak for reasons other than enchantments or paralysis (for example, if you are gagged), or if cast in an environment where speaking is not possible.

So, two things. First off, what does the duration mean? Break Enchantment was instantatneous. But this is 1 round/level. Does this mean if I fail to break free the first round, I can keep trying? Does it mean I can try once per round for a different effect?

Secondly, does this allow you to break domination, or does domination prevent you from casting the spell to begin with?


YAWP!

To my reading, the duration means you continue to get a check to perform your scream any time during the spell's duration. Casting the spell doesn't have to be after an effect that paralyses you, and the spell doesn't say it ends when you perform your scream, only when you fail.

For example, if you knew you're going to go fight a pack of ghouls, you could buff with this spell beforehand. If you get paralysed in the first round, you try to scream and break the paralysis. You succeed, but in the second round you get paralysed again and this time you fail, so the spell ends.


Daspolo wrote:

So I was reading over the rules for the spell, primal scream, and I am confused about two things,

The rules are as follows

SRD wrote:


School abjuration [mind-affecting, sonic]; Level bard 4
CASTING

Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V
EFFECT

Range personal
Target you
Duration 1 round/level

DESCRIPTION

You voice a mighty yell from the depths of your soul, invigorating yourself and dispelling enchantment and paralysis effects. This functions as break enchantment, except it only affects you and only frees you from enchantment and paralysis effects. If the caster level check to break the hostile effect succeeds, you give voice to your scream and the spell takes effect normally; if not, this spell fails without further effect. You can cast this spell even when paralyzed or unable to speak because of an enchantment effect, but not in an area of silence, if you are unable to speak for reasons other than enchantments or paralysis (for example, if you are gagged), or if cast in an environment where speaking is not possible.

So, two things. First off, what does the duration mean? Break Enchantment was instantatneous. But this is 1 round/level. Does this mean if I fail to break free the first round, I can keep trying? Does it mean I can try once per round for a different effect?

Secondly, does this allow you to break domination, or does domination prevent you from casting the spell to begin with?

1. As JDLPF says, I read the duration to indicate this as a buff spell for the caster. It would be in effect until success, failure, or dispelled by another.

2. I'd say yes, if it succeeds it would end a dominate person or similar spell, as that spell has the enchantment descriptor.

So, like the example above, if the caster used this spell and was then subject to a dominate or other enchantment, I'd say the spell gives the caster a chance to break the enchantment/paralysis within the spell's duration, beyond other available means to do so, i.e. after a failed saving throw.

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