Thor: Ragnarok trailer


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Norse,

Are we now making Nintendo references?

No, my reference was something much more horrible


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Drejk,

Having Hercules and Thor do stuff would be better than what I read about.

I don't think so. I don't think I've ever ready any of the Avengers comics with Hercules that I wasn't kind of annoyed by him (though I never read the Champions comic - maybe he's not as annoying there). I'd just as soon keep him well away.


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My family and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. And I'm perfectly fine with how much was played for humor even if it wasn't classic Marvel Thor who was nearly always extremely humorless. It's really hard to do the cosmic, Hulk-infused stuff without some humor.

But now I'm wondering if I can get my wife to cosplay Hela...

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The parts I remember about Hercules, he always seemed gawdawfully Olympian in his treatment of women and those 'beneath him'.

Really glad the MCU didn't use him.


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The parts I remember about Hercules, he always seemed gawdawfully Olympian in his treatment of women and those 'beneath him'.

Really glad the MCU didn't use him.

That's partly because he's rarely been the hero of his own series. He was originally used as a foil for Thor - generally to show off how much better Thor (being the hero of the book) was. Similarly with his early Avenger's role. He's usually been portrayed as egotistical and patronizingly misogynistic, but generally those aren't shown as good things, but as character flaws.

I kind of like him as a character because of that.

Probably harder to pull off well as a guest spot in a movie though.


I think you all need to read Incredible Hercules. It's a great series.


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Best Masters of the Universe movie so far;)

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Dragon78 wrote:
BestOnly Masters of the Universe movie so far;)

FTFY :)

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My family and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. And I'm perfectly fine with how much was played for humor even if it wasn't classic Marvel Thor who was nearly always extremely humorless. It's really hard to do the cosmic, Hulk-infused stuff without some humor.

But now I'm wondering if I can get my wife to cosplay Hela...

Yeah, the humor added a lot to the movie. I really liked Ragnarok quite a bit. The sound track was also really good. Ragnarok is just a well made movie.


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Definitely my favorite of the Thor movies. Reminded me of a brightly colored Ice Pirates.


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Ya'll are heathens but at least you have taste. :p


So just got back from seeing it. I hadn't planned to see it in the theaters but a friend of ours who we always watch movies with was rather eager to see it.

I wish I could say I was disappointed but that would mean it had failed to live up to my expectations, and I didn't expect it to be a good movie. It was better than the last two and could have been a pretty decent flick had it not had that incessant gawdawful joking. If the movie had kept the "YES!/He's a friend from work" scene and left out all the rest of the humor it would have been good. The general themes of character growth, change and loss would have made a great movie, yet any poignancy or seriousness was instantly deflated by bad jokes which failed to make me smile even once (and the one joke that would have worked was in the first trailer and so not terribly funny anymore).

It was definitely better than the last two Thor movies (not a difficult feat) but tried too hard to be GotG (movies which I did not like) and not its own thing.


Bjorn,

I liked GotG...but I remain unconvinced they needed that much humor to make Thor a better movie.

Maybe next time they'll have him fight Galactus.


Poor blanket is drowning.


Which blanket?

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The wet one.


Ah. That wouldn't be me then cause I'm not against the movie. Just tweaking it. :p ;)

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Saw it with my brother and SIL at the beginning of the month. Loved it. Loved loved loved loved loved it. All the funny scenes were hilarious and all the epic scenes were pure undiluted awesome.

Place it firmly in the Top 5 Marvel movies ever along with the two GOTGs, Doctor Strange, and Avengers 1.


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The wet one.

TOZ gets me.


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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:

So just got back from seeing it. I hadn't planned to see it in the theaters but a friend of ours who we always watch movies with was rather eager to see it.

I wish I could say I was disappointed but that would mean it had failed to live up to my expectations, and I didn't expect it to be a good movie. It was better than the last two and could have been a pretty decent flick had it not had that incessant gawdawful joking. If the movie had kept the "YES!/He's a friend from work" scene and left out all the rest of the humor it would have been good. The general themes of character growth, change and loss would have made a great movie, yet any poignancy or seriousness was instantly deflated by bad jokes which failed to make me smile even once (and the one joke that would have worked was in the first trailer and so not terribly funny anymore).

It was definitely better than the last two Thor movies (not a difficult feat) but tried too hard to be GotG (movies which I did not like) and not its own thing.

Hah...I am glad I am not the only one, although I was hyped prior which probably means my disappointment is even greater. Although I did find the jokes funny, I just think their were too many of them and that they consistently undercut the dramatic moments.

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Haven't seen it yet by holy crap the score is epic!

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Hmm, I might go watch it if it's still in theaters next month, they're having a night meeting at work so I'll have a lot of time to kill >_<


I'm probably going to see it this weekend mostly because I have time and a working car by then. :p


Infinity War Trailer:
Loki is shown holding/touching the tesseract.


Unsurprised. I still think the last Gem is in Black Panther.

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"And get this man a shield"


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They should have added "And a better uniform!"

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At least it's not the one that would cause a significant tonne of confusion...

Spoiler:
Nomad (Steve Rogers during a time of crisis of faith) in the comics had a blue and gold number... and Thanos is in...

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I'm glad the Infinity War trailer kept ye olde one-eye instead of reverting to some binocular shenanigans. Even up to Monday I was seeing articles that speculated something happened between Ragnarok and Infinity War to restore missing eyes, because of the D23 footage. This trailer put those to rest though, and Kudos to Disney for keeping that spoiler until the film.


Wei,

I don't think Rogers was ready to change titles/code names just yet. Maybe later. Plus the fact I bet he figures he'll be redeemed some how.

With Thanos coming, I'd bet heavily on it.

Arch,

I'm still waiting to see if we get a return of Mjolnir by the end of this film...


Yeah I think getting make his hammer is gonna be a subplot in IW

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Regarding Hammers:
Y'know, it's not even a certainty that the got *his* umbrella back when he was hanging over at Strange's place. He got *an* 'umbrella' back that came when he reached out for it. And we know Strange really effs around with space-time and stuff, because it's what he does.


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I find it more likely that Strange could use the Time Stone to unmake the hammer's destruction, or some contrivance along that line.


It would be a trifle matter for the gauntlet. At least 2 of the gems should be able to really.

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Further Speculation:
Strange apparently has the Time thing going on, in addition to being Sorcerer Supreme and watching over Earth and all that jazz.

If he can see that the destruction of Mjolnir, which is a 'fixed point in time', must happen for the best result for Earth (and by extension Reality), I'm pretty sure he'd come up with some sort of 'work-around' to both have his cake and eat it, too, as it were.

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


** spoiler omitted **

Borrow the hammer from the timeline every time thor was passed out drunk for the first 10,000 years of his life.

Should buy you 9,000 years of... say it...

Spoiler:

HAMMER TIME


Stop.


Collaborate and listen?

(Oh wait wrong one hit wonder... Now if we had been talking about TMNT.)


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Go, ninja, go, ninja, go!

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


** spoiler omitted **

No such thing as 'fixed point in time' outside of Dr Who.


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Hama wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


** spoiler omitted **
No such thing as 'fixed point in time' outside of Dr Who.

And there shouldn't be one in DW either.

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Perhaps 'fixed point' isn't the right term to use.

"Dreadfully and horribly inconvenient mess-making data point that if it gets jiggled too much can cause the whole system to come crashing down around itself and leave us with either a broken reality or milenia of work to correct" is probably closer to the mark.

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Nobody and nothing is that important so that it can unravel time.


Hama wrote:
Nobody and nothing is that important so that it can unravel time.

Depends on who's writing the story.

Since time travel or manipulation is impossible anyway, any rules imposed on are simply narrative contrivances.

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I don't want them to bring the hammer back. Doing so invalidates so much of his heros journey, not just in Ragnarok, but all the way back to Thor. His arc has been about defining who he is as a super being, and particularly in Ragnarok, that arc involved rejection of his cultures history of conquest and embracing protection. Mewmew is a literal symbol of the old Asgard, and of the tyranny he rejected in Hela. He evolved beyond needing Odin's safety net, beyond Asgard's safety net, and finally beyond Mewmew's. Bringing the hammer back for him would be a step back for the character.

Now if someone brings the hammer back for another to take the mantle of Thor, then it becomes useful to the plot. Otherwise it's a fall back on a version of Thor that the character has moved beyond.


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I don't want them to bring the hammer back. Doing so invalidates so much of his heros journey, not just in Ragnarok, but all the way back to Thor. His arc has been about defining who he is as a super being, and particularly in Ragnarok, that arc involved rejection of his cultures history of conquest and embracing protection. Mewmew is a literal symbol of the old Asgard, and of the tyranny he rejected in Hela. He evolved beyond needing Odin's safety net, beyond Asgard's safety net, and finally beyond Mewmew's. Bringing the hammer back for him would be a step back for the character.

Now if someone brings the hammer back for another to take the mantle of Thor, then it becomes useful to the plot. Otherwise it's a fall back on a version of Thor that the character has moved beyond.

If so, that's a damn stupid arc. Mjolnir is an iconic part of Thor. Stripping him of it for a time can be good character growth, but removing it permanently is just wrong.


A pretty important question as I see it...

Spoiler:
Thor was repeatedly stated to be getting his power from Asgard. Just like Hela. This was stated to be the reason they needed to destroy Asgard. Soooo... is he powerless now? I... really can't see why he wouldn't be.


Sissyl,

It's all pretty muddled if you ask me thanks to the first Thor movie and the fact they aren't actual gods. :P


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archmagi1 wrote:

I don't want them to bring the hammer back. Doing so invalidates so much of his heros journey, not just in Ragnarok, but all the way back to Thor. His arc has been about defining who he is as a super being, and particularly in Ragnarok, that arc involved rejection of his cultures history of conquest and embracing protection. Mewmew is a literal symbol of the old Asgard, and of the tyranny he rejected in Hela. He evolved beyond needing Odin's safety net, beyond Asgard's safety net, and finally beyond Mewmew's. Bringing the hammer back for him would be a step back for the character.

Now if someone brings the hammer back for another to take the mantle of Thor, then it becomes useful to the plot. Otherwise it's a fall back on a version of Thor that the character has moved beyond.

If so, that's a damn stupid arc. Mjolnir is an iconic part of Thor. Stripping him of it for a time can be good character growth, but removing it permanently is just wrong.

If "permanently" is, "for the next movie or two before he basically vanishes" (dead, retired, whatever), then bringing it back less than a film after he lost it would be an even more stupid arc, because it would be genuinely pointless.

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The hammer lets him do a lot of cool interesting tricks in combat , rather than being just a flying super strong guy.

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