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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
The Hulkbuster armor was more like the "Occupy Hulk for ten minutes" armor.

So apparently Hulbuster Armor is the Lamborghini of the billionaire Genius set

Can't wait for Reid Richards to bust out his.

His is called The Thing. It works about as good a tony's.

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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
The Hulkbuster armor was more like the "Occupy Hulk for ten minutes" armor.

So apparently Hulbuster Armor is the Lamborghini of the billionaire Genius set

Can't wait for Reid Richards to bust out his.

His is called The Thing. It works about as good a tony's.

LMAO!!!


I thought he called it "Black Panther Mech"...


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Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
Mark Thomas 66 wrote:
The Hulkbuster armor was more like the "Occupy Hulk for ten minutes" armor.

So apparently Hulbuster Armor is the Lamborghini of the billionaire Genius set

Can't wait for Reid Richards to bust out his.

His is called The Thing. It works about as good a tony's.

Man, the Hulk using the Thing as a club while fighting bad guys on A:EMH was one of the best things ever. (That and presenting a Doctor Doom that was properly hyper-competent and threatening.)

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Loving the retro synth-pop music in the new trailer.


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What new trailer...

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Several?

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This one (the first part)


I wonder if all the lighting is him just getting his powers back or if it is him claiming the odinforce for his own.

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Good question. I think this movie he goes Mythic

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
I wonder if all the lighting is him just getting his powers back or if it is him claiming the odinforce for his own.

I'm hoping for the former, although the trailer scene suggests the latter might also be a thing.

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He's sitting on the throne, and Hela's telling him that's her chair, and he says that Asgard does need a ruler (suggesting that Odin's no longer available for the job) but that she'd be 'the worst.'

This is the last movie in the trilogy, and MCU Thor is not comic-book Thor (who will live on in perpetuity), so it's entirely possible that they will go on to make some drastic changes, since they are getting close to wrapping up their use of some of these characters (and possibly rebooting with new actors, although I kind of dread that, and would prefer exploration of other characters, continuing on with Winter Soldier and Black Panther and so forth, rather than scrapping everyone so that they can recast Tony and Thor and Steve with younger actors).

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They aren't going to recast, not now anyway. They aren't stupid.


If they recast anyone it will be Tony Stark but ONLY after Infinity Wars. (Possibly by then they might get Fox to let them have FF4 and those characters back. MAYBE!)


We've been over this ground before, but I hope they do recast, but only after letting the characters lie fallow for awhile. It seems the best option to me.
I'd rather that than never seeing any of the original big name characters again. Not that I don't want more of their lesser known characters or even to see some of the legacy characters take over the big name roles, but part of the fun of that is seeing them interact with the real ones.
The other alternative is to reboot and start the whole thing over again, which is what superhero movies have traditionally done and I really don't want that.
Just recast after a few years and movies without them. Not necessarily every character and not all at once, but if they've got something cool to do with them.


I'm still holding out for what 2020 will look like since that's still 3 years from now...

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You're aware that Iron Man was in no way a big name character before the 2008 film?


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Hama wrote:
You're aware that Iron Man was in no way a big name character before the 2008 film?

Big name character compared to ones like Bucky, Falcon and Black Panther. Or even Doctor Strange.

He's carried his own title pretty much continuously since the 60s and been a regular mainstay of the Avengers.

He's not Spider-man or Wolverine, but pretty much no one else in Marvel is. Cap might qualify? Or Hulk, due to the old TV show?

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He was a B-lister through and through. Yeah better known than most.


I guess the question would be: Who do you consider Marvel's A-listers?


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I guess the question would be: Who do you consider Marvel's A-listers?

That Marvel actually still owns the movie rights to? Probably just Captain America, though I guess an argument could be made for the Hulk. (Though Hulk might instead be the top of the B list?)

Iron Man and Wolverine are pretty good examples of characters who fantastically lucked out with the actors cast to play them.


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thejeff wrote:
I guess the question would be: Who do you consider Marvel's A-listers?

That Marvel actually still owns the movie rights to? Probably just Captain America, though I guess an argument could be made for the Hulk. (Though Hulk might instead be the top of the B list?)

Iron Man and Wolverine are pretty good examples of characters who fantastically lucked out with the actors cast to play them.

Even of all their characters, I'd really only add Spider-man and Wolverine (even before the casting).

I'd say the X-Men qualify as a team, but not as individuals, except for Wolverine.

But I'm a long time comics fan, so it's hard for me to say what's mainstream outside of that world. :)

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It's hard to say who is an A-lister, since it's kind of subjective.

I'd go with characters who have had long-running solo series, and that list starts with Spider-Man, and then continues with Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Wolverine, Daredevil and the Punisher.

The Fantastic Four has had a long run, but other than the Thing, in Marvel Two-in-One, hasn't had much 'solo' success. Tons of other characters have had various solo runs, such as the Ghost Rider or Dr. Strange, but none quite as long-running and consistent as the others.

Spider-Man's probably the only one I'd put at the top of the list with characters like Superman and Batman (and that would be cutting the list fine enough that even Wonder Woman wouldn't be on it, since once you've included her, Captain America and Thor are pretty much right there with her for being in-print regularly).


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It's hard to say who is an A-lister, since it's kind of subjective.

I'd go with characters who have had long-running solo series, and that list starts with Spider-Man, and then continues with Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, Wolverine, Daredevil and the Punisher.

The Fantastic Four has had a long run, but other than the Thing, in Marvel Two-in-One, hasn't had much 'solo' success. Tons of other characters have had various solo runs, such as the Ghost Rider or Dr. Strange, but none quite as long-running and consistent as the others.

Spider-Man's probably the only one I'd put at the top of the list with characters like Superman and Batman (and that would be cutting the list fine enough that even Wonder Woman wouldn't be on it, since once you've included her, Captain America and Thor are pretty much right there with her for being in-print regularly).

Honestly, just looking at comics, I'd say the top of the list is those that held down multiple long running titles or were heavily used as guest stars to pull readers to other titles.

Long running solo titles is the second tier.
All somewhat complicated by those that had extra publicity outside the comic world for one reason or another - TV or something. Wonder Woman qualifies, despite struggling as a comic, both for the huge name recognition from the Linda Carter years and from DC's consistent efforts to push her as a peer of Superman and Batman.

Cap's got the recognition as a icon, I think, despite no real obvious modern reason for it.


Cap's resonance was for basic humanity. At least that's how I always read it.

Anyways, Thor Ragnarok looks awesome and I can't wait to see Surtur, Fenris, and of course Cate Blanchett's Hela.


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Early buzz for the film so far has all been good, although actual reviews are still embargoed.


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Most people outside of comic fanboys didnt know who and what IRON MAN was before 2008.

I remember listening to a podcast interview with Matt Fraction who was writing IM when the movie was coming out. He told his mother the good news that he was writing IM. and she was like "The robot?"
Fraction was like: No ma Tony Stark wears a suit of armor....
His mother: "Wait...there's a man in there??"

My own mother knew who IRON MAN was and I wish that I could say that it was because of me but no she read those Tales of Suspense issues with Cap and Iron Man when she was a teen in Trinidad.


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Thor is still the guy I want to be if only for the dino-killing hammer. :p ;)


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Most people outside of comic fanboys didnt know who and what IRON MAN was before 2008.

I remember listening to a podcast interview with Matt Fraction who was writing IM when the movie was coming out. He told his mother the good news that he was writing IM. and she was like "The robot?"
Fraction was like: No ma Tony Stark wears a suit of armor....
His mother: "Wait...there's a man in there??"

My own mother knew who IRON MAN was and I wish that I could say that it was because of me but no she read those Tales of Suspense issues with Cap and Iron Man when she was a teen in Trinidad.

Can't really argue with that, but again, what Marvel characters were actually more well known?


THOR!!!

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...who admittedly had a 'leg up' because of mythology and religion.


Well yeah...but still!


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Seriously, Thor!

I hadn't read a Thor comic since 1986 but I still remembered who Donald Blake was. Couldn't have told you what hawkeyes real name was, would have struggled knowing who Hank Pym was..

but yeah, loved my Thor.

I think if you grew up in the 70's and 80's, for individual comic runs spidey, Thor and maybe Hulk were the three best Marvel seller.s

Then again, what do I know, I let my mom sell my comic while I was at university and all I was left with was Micronaughts and the odd Rom spaceknight issue.


Cap, Thor, and Iron Man have been the "Big 3" of the Avengers for a while (which may be saying something that one of the "Big 3" was considered B-List)


Thor isn't a B-lister! :P

Also Rom is decent but Dire Wraiths are much more awesome.


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Thor isn't a B-lister! :P

Also Rom is decent but Dire Wraiths are much more awesome.

Thor's easily as much of a B-lister as Iron Man.

And the Dire Wraiths were okay, but the Micronauts were awesome. :)

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Darkhawk and The New Warriors, first run, please?

...okay, enough of a derail.

I appreciate the fact they seem to have a *talking* Hulk in this one. I always appreciated seeing some brains with the brawn.


Well not sure this is "Smart Hulk" so much as "Less emotionally driven Hulk when angry."

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Spider-Man is probably Marvel's single, biggest, most popular property by a long shot.

I'd also say the Fantastic Four is one of Marvel's more well-known properties among the general public


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Well FF won't be forever if Fox continues to hold on to them.


FF is kind of Fox until they figure out they can't get directors worth crap to do fantastic stories with them. Which considering Fox's track record, is pretty long time...

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Well FF won't be forever if Fox continues to hold on to them.

Well, right. I meant in general, not specifically movies.

The hope of course is that Marvel Studios can get the Fantastic Four movie rights back from Fox so they can make a great Fantastic Four movie.


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I just want Galactus, Kang and Annihilus back. :)


about about Terrax? Is he solely a FF villain?


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Hama wrote:
He was a B-lister through and through. Yeah better known than most.

Oh, you are too young to have had Iron Man Underoos. Believe me, for guys who grew up in the 80s, Iron Man was not insignificant.


Terrax I believe falls under the same place as Galactus, Silver Surfer and the rest of the Heralds of Galactus.


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In the spirit of the derail, what I would most like to see with the FF is that they be made into either a 22 minute sitcom in the vein of Modern Family or a 44 minute dramedy (This is Us). What Marvel movies have shown us is that they are best when they are genre films with superheroes in them rather than being superhero movies. FF is a story about a family. It is perfect for the single camera comedy format.


Well not sure comedy but family drama with sprinkles of comedy sure.


I want doom and the surfer.


Like I said, Galactus, Kang and Annihilus are tops on my list.

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Hama wrote:
He was a B-lister through and through. Yeah better known than most.
Oh, you are too young to have had Iron Man Underoos. Believe me, for guys who grew up in the 80s, Iron Man was not insignificant.

I am in the wrong country to have worn superhero underoos. I mean we got the first McDonald's around '87. Coke was first brought in a few years before that.

Pesky socialism and all.

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