Does Armored Might work with ......


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Scarab Sages

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Does Armored Might work with any of the following:

  • Enduring Armor
  • Mage Armor
  • Bracers of Armor

My monk is curious if he can use mythic abilities to boost his AC, or this this an "anybody except monks" ability.

Quote:

Armored Might (Ex): You treat the armor bonus from

your armor as 50% higher than normal, to maximum
increase of half your tier (minimum 1). For example, if
you are 4th tier and wearing +2 breastplate, you treat the
armor’s +6 armor bonus as +8 (50% of +6 is +3, limited to
+2 by half your tier).


I'm not 100% sure, but while I would probably allow it, I don't think it's supposed to work with spell's/bracers as it actually says "your armor" instead of only mentioning AC. But that's only guessing towards the intend, RAW doesn't seem clear in either direction. So its a DM call.


the example specify that 50% of a +2 breatplate is 3, meaning only the physical armor bonus is counted, not the magical bonus. So, do your own math on how much non magical base armor have a bracer or armor...

Scarab Sages

Dekalinder wrote:
the example specify that 50% of a +2 breatplate is 3, meaning only the physical armor bonus is counted, not the magical bonus. So, do your own math on how much non magical base armor have a bracer or armor...

A more appropriate question would be, how much of the AC granted is armor, as opposed to an enhancement bonus to armor.

All of the effects I listed are strictly armor, they do not have enhancement bonuses.


I would say yes it works.

Scarab Sages

Bumping now that people have had a chance to review Mythic rules.


So, anyone ever revisit this? What did you decide, Artanthos?


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I'm going to be a nay-sayer here. "Armor bonus from Armor as" seems to exclude an armor bonus from something that isn't armor. The spell Mage Armor (it's a force effect from a spell that provides an armor bonus, but is not armor), Bracers of Armor (a force effect), and Enduring Armor (again, a force effect). They are not armor.

If Armored Might was supposed to work with these, why the "from Armor" ? Why not leave it as "you treat [any] armor bonus as"


SlimGauge wrote:

I'm going to be a nay-sayer here. "Armor bonus from Armor as" seems to exclude an armor bonus from something that isn't armor. The spell Mage Armor (it's a force effect from a spell that provides an armor bonus, but is not armor), Bracers of Armor (a force effect), and Enduring Armor (again, a force effect). They are not armor.

If Armored Might was supposed to work with these, why the "from Armor" ? Why not leave it as "you treat [any] armor bonus as"

Meh. I don't see the harm in allowing it. It's not broken, especially considering its mythic stuff.


I agree that I would allow it.

However, I think RAW says no, it's only the physical armor bonus that is affected. (as much as I don't like it)

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Thread necromancer - the black art! :O

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I would vote that the bonus is only towards armor that you are wearing (including Bones armor from the Oracle revelation).

The line "You treat the armor bonus from your armor" makes me look at what the player has in their armor slot - not what spells have been cast on them (unless that spell conjured something that fills their armor slot).


I'd say it's just the bonus from actual armor, so I'd have to disagree with Hollister on Oracle revelation 'armor' as it doesn't create actual armor with weight, type and all the other things actual armor does.

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