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is there a spontaneous casting druid archetype?


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or a way to just make the druid a spontaneous caster?


Well, the Hunter spontaneously casts Druid spells.


I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.


Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.

There's one or two magus archetypes that change the class into spontaneous casting.

Perhaps a nature-themed oracle might be part of the answer needed?


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Well... I usually just allow players to choose a spontaneous variant of classes without one. For Druids, I use the Oracle progression for their spells known/per day.


Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.

The Ley Line Witch archetype turns the Witch into a spontaneous caster from a prepared one, so there is precedent.

No archetype like that for the Druid as far as I know, though.


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Yep, no spontaneous druids. Which is a damn shame. What are you waiting for, Paizo? :p


natural druids don't get natural spells. >.>
and by natural i mean spontaneous magic.


Closest thing seems to be Oracle of Nature VMC Druid. VMC Druid isn't very good, though.

If you are satisfied with a more plant-oriented Druid-like character, Oracle of Wood could work (and instead of VMC Druid, use Leadership to snag an intelligent Plant creature for a Cohort).


They do get spontaneous summon nature's ally (or spontaneous cures, or spontaneous domain spells with archetypes) which goes one step of the way there. But no, dozens of druid archetypes, none fully spontaneous.


Ask your gm if you can play a nature oracle using the druid spell list instead of the cleric's.


Wildfire druids trade spont summons for spont domain casting.


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Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.

Questioner investigator changes from alchemy to spontaneous (bard).


taks wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.
Questioner investigator changes from alchemy to spontaneous (bard).

Eldritch Scion magus changes to spontaneous, without altering list.

Living Grimmoire Inquisitor changes from spontaneous to prepared.


The Sideromancer wrote:
taks wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.
Questioner investigator changes from alchemy to spontaneous (bard).

Eldritch Scion magus changes to spontaneous, without altering list.

Living Grimmoire Inquisitor changes from spontaneous to prepared.

Note that Eldritch Scion Magus also changes from Intelligence-dependent to Charisma-dependent, but doesn't give more skill ranks per level.

Living Grimoire Inquisitor also changes from Wisdom-dependent to Intelligence-dependent. This is the only Intelligence-dependent divine caster I know of.

Dandy Ranger changes from prepared Wisdom-dependent to spontaneous (4/9 truncated Bard spell list) Charisma-dependent.

Mindblade Magus changes from prepared to spontaneous and from arcane to occult without altering casting stat or altering spell list (although it later does add Psychic spells and alters Spell Blending to access Psychic spells instead of Sorcerer/Wizard spells).

Feyspeaker Druid changes from Wisdom-dependent to Charisma-dependent, but stays prepared (and even loses the ability to cast Summon Nature's Ally spontaneously), and leaves spell list mostly unaltered, except for adding a small set of Sorcerer/Wizard spells (must be Enchantment or Illusion).


Oh, yeah! One more thing! If you decide to follow my suggestion (and if this is not PFS, I don't see why you wouldn't)...

Tabernero wrote:
Well... I usually just allow players to choose a spontaneous variant of classes without one. For Druids, I use the Oracle progression for their spells known/per day.

...Remember to give Summon Nature's Ally I-IX as bonus spells known to the Druid.


There is a 3pp product for this called the Shaman. I'm pretty sure it's from Kobold Games. Information regarding this class can be found over at d20pfsrd.


^Kobold Press Shaman (not to be confused with the Pathfinder RPG Shaman, which came later).


UnArcaneElection wrote:
The Sideromancer wrote:
taks wrote:
Texas Snyper wrote:
I don't know of any archetypes that change the casting type of any caster, just the casting stat. You'd need a completely different class like the Hunter.
Questioner investigator changes from alchemy to spontaneous (bard).

Eldritch Scion magus changes to spontaneous, without altering list.

Living Grimmoire Inquisitor changes from spontaneous to prepared.

Note that Eldritch Scion Magus also changes from Intelligence-dependent to Charisma-dependent, but doesn't give more skill ranks per level.

Living Grimoire Inquisitor also changes from Wisdom-dependent to Intelligence-dependent. This is the only Intelligence-dependent divine caster I know of.

Dandy Ranger changes from prepared Wisdom-dependent to spontaneous (4/9 truncated Bard spell list) Charisma-dependent.

Mindblade Magus changes from prepared to spontaneous and from arcane to occult without altering casting stat or altering spell list (although it later does add Psychic spells and alters Spell Blending to access Psychic spells instead of Sorcerer/Wizard spells).

Feyspeaker Druid changes from Wisdom-dependent to Charisma-dependent, but stays prepared (and even loses the ability to cast Summon Nature's Ally spontaneously), and leaves spell list mostly unaltered, except for adding a small set of Sorcerer/Wizard spells (must be Enchantment or Illusion).

while we're on this subject...

Ley line witches are spont. casters.

Talisman crafter occultists are very nearly prepared casters, unlike any other occult/psychic caster.

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