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I'm building a Human Warpriest of Desna for PFS.
I'm weighing options.
Currently, the build looks like this:
STR 14, DEX 16, CON 14, INT 12, WIS 14, CHA 8
Weapon Focus (Starknife), Weapon Finesse, Two Weapon Fighting.
FCB is hit points at 1st, and then from 2nd to 7th, 1/6th of a combat feat.
At 3rd, I'm planning on taking Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot.
At 4th, +1 to DEX and buying a Blinkback Belt sometime in this level.
At 5th, I'm planning on either Weapon Specialization (Starnnife) or Quick Draw
At 6th, I'm taking the option not chosen at 5th. About 6th Level, I'll get a Red Sphere Ioun Stone for +2 to DEX (no belts of stat boostage with the Blinkback Belt)
At 7th, I'm undecided and get two feats. I'm considering Starry Grace and Two Weapon Grace. Also about this level, I should be able to afford a pair of +1 Agile Starknives.
At 8th, +1 to DEX, and if I'm not sure what to do with that extra feat at 7th, take an extra hit point, and delay it to 8th to take Improved Two Weapon Fighting.
Here's my questions:
A) Starry Grace gives DEX to Damage, and Two Weapon Grace allows two weapon fighting. Does Starry Grace's DEX to Damage apply to thrown starknives, or just used in Melee?
B) It seems like +12,000 GP will get me everything those two feats will give me. Is there something I'm missing?
C) It looks like the latter two feats of the Startoss style are incompatible with the Blinkback Belt, as the meta of the feat chain is the starknife bouncing from opponent to opponent.
D) Does Double Slice give me full DEX to Damage on the off-hand weapons with either Two Weapon Grace or Agile?
Two Weapon Grace does not appear to be PFS Legal.
Thank you! I keep forgetting that Archives of Nethys is now the official PRD and I hadn't dug into additional resources to find that.
That definitely makes a pair of +1 Agile Starknives look like the better option for the build.
Huh. Why was TWG banned from PFS?
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Huh. Why was TWG banned from PFS?
Because the feat is found in Villian Codex.
Just a guess, don't really play/run PFS though I would like to, eventually.
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Huh. Why was TWG banned from PFS?
Because martials can't have nice things. Didn't you get the memo?
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If you go with these stats:
7 15 14 12 14 16
You can pick Desna Shooting Star at 1st level instead of one of your minor blessings and use Cha to hit and damage (both melee and ranged). This would also spare you the need to pick Weapon Finesse and Dex-to-dmg feats, while enabling you to have both the Blinkback Belt and a Headband of Cha to improve your combat and social abilities.
In addition, I suggest you pick Rapid Shot before TWF. If you don't plan on picking both, then I suggest you pick only Rapid Shot, which requires only Dex 13 rather than 15.
The original post was a series of rules questions, so the thread's in the right place.
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If you go with these stats:
7 15 14 12 14 16
You can pick Desna Shooting Star at 1st level instead of one of your minor blessings and use Cha to hit and damage (both melee and ranged). This would also spare you the need to pick Weapon Finesse and Dex-to-dmg feats, while enabling you to have both the Blinkback Belt and a Headband of Cha to improve your combat and social abilities.
In addition, I suggest you pick Rapid Shot before TWF. If you don't plan on picking both, then I suggest you pick only Rapid Shot, which requires only Dex 13 rather than 15.
For rapid shot to work you either need Quick Draw or to already have a starknife in each hand. In order to draw 2 as 1 action you need TWF.
Looks like you need quick draw no matter what
So far, nobody has answered question D.
Does Double Slice give full DEX to Damage on off-hand attacks with Agile weapons? If it does, it becomes tempting as this character's 7th level feat.
I'm not terribly worried about spending gold for Agile. With a Warpriest, there's always options.
Benefit: Add your Strength bonus to damage rolls made with your off-hand weapon.
A character with Weapon Finesse can apply her Dexterity modifier to damage rolls with an agile weapon in place of her Strength modifier. This modifier to damage is not increased for two-handed weapons, but is still reduced for off-hand weapons. This weapon special ability can be placed only on melee weapons usable with Weapon Finesse.
Yup. Everything applies as normal, except you're substituting Dexterity for Strength when determining how much to add to the agile weapon's damage rolls.
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If you go with these stats:
7 15 14 12 14 16
You can pick Desna Shooting Star at 1st level instead of one of your minor blessings and use Cha to hit and damage (both melee and ranged). This would also spare you the need to pick Weapon Finesse and Dex-to-dmg feats, while enabling you to have both the Blinkback Belt and a Headband of Cha to improve your combat and social abilities.
In addition, I suggest you pick Rapid Shot before TWF. If you don't plan on picking both, then I suggest you pick only Rapid Shot, which requires only Dex 13 rather than 15.
A 7 Strength / 15 Dexterity combo seems pretty bad: Not enough Dex to get a good AC from light armor, and not enough strength to wear decent armor without being encumbered (a chain shirt will make put you into medium encumbrance all by itself).
Also, using Charisma for attack / damage will make it more difficult to 'headband boost' your Wisdom for spellcasting (not really essential, but more spell slots are always good).
And, as noted by other posters, "Desna's Shooting Star" is not PFS legal.
At 7th level, I'll be taking Dual Enhancement. Buffing both Starknives off of one swift action is worth a feat, given that I get rounds per day of buffing.
At 8th, due to being human, I'm getting ITWF.
At 9th, Double Slice and something else.
There is also this from Desna's Shooting Star:
If you do so, you don’t modify attack rolls and damage rolls with your starknife with your Strength modifier, your Dexterity modifier (if you have Weapon Finesse), or any other ability score (if you have an ability that allows you to modify attack rolls and damage rolls with that ability score).
In other words, once you commit to this Technique and switch to CHA as your damage bonus, there is no going back to any other ability score. It's right there in the benefits.
If going with Starry Grace and that chain, you are okay (as far as I can tell).
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In other words, once you commit to this Technique and switch to CHA as your damage bonus, there is no going back to any other ability score.
Er, no. You can choose for every attack. "you can" means using the feat is optional, and "If you do so" part is only active when using that option.
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In other words, once you commit to this Technique and switch to CHA as your damage bonus, there is no going back to any other ability score.Er, no. You can choose for every attack. "you can" means using the feat is optional, and "If you do so" part is only active when using that option.
Agreed.
You can add your Charisma bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls when wielding a starknife. If you do so, you don’t modify attack rolls and damage rolls with your starknife with your Strength modifier, your Dexterity modifier (if you have Weapon Finesse), or any other ability score (if you have an ability that allows you to modify attack rolls and damage rolls with that ability score).