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Did Iomedae Summon Arazni?


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The Knights of Ozem summoned Arazni to lead them in the Shining Crusade against the Whispering Tyrant, which she did for five years before being killed. Iomedae was the leader of the Knights of Ozem at the time of Arazni's death, and possibly at the time of her summoning (I am not certain of the timing of Iomedae's leadership of the Knights).
So did Iomedae herself decide to summon Arazni? It would be an interesting twist, and certainly feed Arazni's resentment of Iomedae, if the mortal who called her to her doom is the one who took her place and ultimately surpassed her. For her part, Iomedae would likely feel a great deal of guilt and grief for this role that is not generally discussed by the faithful... yet one could imagine her quietly championing a Tortured Crusader paladin, who likewise reflects on their own failings as motivation to do better.

Scarab Sages

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I see it being possible. At that time, Iomedae was surely a demigod, as she was carrying about on her tasks toward becoming a Herald (and eventually Goddess), and was likely high enough level to pop a Greater Planar Ally to call a Herald. However, from how I've seen the depictions of Iomedae, I doubt she held any remorse for Aranzi. This is the LG'est of LG paladin stereotypes, the crusader goddess, the one who does sonic damage to parties who interrupt her. Her for the greater good style demands people sacrifice themselves to banish evil, and doing so is a glorious way to die. Aranzi's death, while tragic, was just a casualty in the long war to defeat the horrendous evil that Tar Baphon represents.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
archmagi1 wrote:
I see it being possible. At that time, Iomedae was surely a demigod, as she was carrying about on her tasks toward becoming a Herald (and eventually Goddess), and was likely high enough level to pop a Greater Planar Ally to call a Herald. However, from how I've seen the depictions of Iomedae, I doubt she held any remorse for Aranzi. This is the LG'est of LG paladin stereotypes, the crusader goddess, the one who does sonic damage to parties who interrupt her. Her for the greater good style demands people sacrifice themselves to banish evil, and doing so is a glorious way to die. Aranzi's death, while tragic, was just a casualty in the long war to defeat the horrendous evil that Tar Baphon represents.

The whole "chat with Iomedae" has been stated as not being handled the way the campaign team would have preferred, but I agree, ordering a soldier to its duty, at the risk of its life, is not something she would be explicitly remorseful in, but would likely fall under the banner of general leadership duties she must bear, and expects her leaders to do likewise. It is what makes them all stoic, while tending towards starting off into the middle distance with expressions of determination.


Interesting perspectives. I can see where you both are coming from, though I tend to see remorse for three reasons:
1) The utter futility of the loss. Whatever tactics led to Arazni engaging Tar-Baphon were seriously in error. This was not a victory with some necessary casualties. It was a disaster, and Arazni died in vain as far as we know.
2) This was no mere soldier, but her god's herald, and the patron of her order. Not only their most powerful ally, but extremely important for morale. The person they could least afford to lose. Had Arazni survived, the war might have been won with less loss of life, and possibly even the final destruction of the lich.
3) After Iomedae ascended and was patron of the Knights, they once again failed Arazni -- in a big way. And again, to no positive outcome. Not her fault directly, but still in her area of influence.

Maybe not remorse for summoning Arazni in the first place, but for whatever role Iomedae had in the strategy leading to Arazni's death. It looks like there could be quite a story here, and a way to add some depth and complexity to Iomedae, at least in my opinion.

Silver Crusade

I would think she'd feel regret at just how badly the gambit failed, and at the further failure that resulted in her becoming a lich. She may have done what was necessary, but that doesn't mean it doesn't twinge her conscience.

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