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New Official 5e Digital Tools!


5th Edition (And Beyond)

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Newly announced at PAX East 2017!

https://www.dndbeyond.com/


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Just saw this announcement today, and I have to say, based off of the description, and depending on the price point and application of future purchases (will a book I buy come with a code to "unlock" that book in the digital toolset?), this might be the very reason I finally make the switch from Pathfinder to D&D 5. I've been waffling back and forth on making the transition for a year or so now, and if this digital toolset is what I hope it is, I'm guessing I'll be selling a lot of Pathfinder books before the end of the year.


Maybe you can still use some of those Pathfinder books?


For me, if this is official only, that's not that useful. You'd need to be able to put in fan made or third party stuff. We use not a lot of homebrew but some.

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@2097 Some folks at Enworld noticed "homebrew" buttons on the application for adding your own/DMguild stuff. So I think you will be covered.

I wonder about pricing on this. Sounds like their is some type of "offline mode." If they sell packs or books might be more manageable than herolab for 5E fans due to 5e slow release schedule.


It says right on the official page: "Create, Browse, & Use Homebrew Content." It's the second bullet point. :) I signed up for the Beta, so I'll probably be back to let people know what things look/act like. :)


Thanks to both!


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I must admit to a certain level of skepticism when it comes to WotC and digital products like this. It seems to me they have a history of announcing big and failing to deliver - what was the last one? Trapdoor or something?

I find it peculiar that they announce printed books so late in the piece but announce these digital products ages in advance - there appears to me to be a strong negative correlation between the lead-in time and the probability of the project actually eventuating.


Totally agree with that. Yeah, Trapdoor was a complete bust. Now that you mention it, it does seem rather like a lot of lead-in time. Like I said, I'm signed up for the beta, so hopefully I'll be able to come back and give regular updates about progress and such. Right now I'll be hopeful in one hand and realistic in the other.


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Don't let me be a wet blanket. It's probably just my kneejerk, luddite tendencies. :p


Steve Geddes wrote:
Don't let me be a wet blanket. It's probably just my kneejerk, luddite tendencies. :p

No, it was a good grounding moment. Totally apt assessment. You're right, and I'll move forward with cautious optimism. We'll all see whether optimism is rewarded in this case or if WotC again lets its digital users down. You'd think, since, seriously, the digital piece is my final barrier to switching systems, they would have made this a priority a long time ago...


Found this on DND beyonds Reddit account
Link

from DND beyond:

I'm Adam Bradford, DDB product lead for Curse. I'm flying back from PAX today, but I'll give a brief reply between flights.
A few things that I can hopefully clarify here:
D&D Beyond is a responsive web application that can work on any device - definitely not a desktop client or mobile app only available for iOS or Android. We care a great deal about offline capability, and you'll be able to access your characters, etc. just fine on the terrible WIFI at those conventions. :)
The DDB toolset is being developed by Curse Media and is not a directly tied to the former Curse App that was recently shared has become the Twitch App.
At launch, players will be able to access SRD content and build and view a small number of characters with a free D&D Beyond account. We don’t have exact pricing nailed down, but you will also be able to buy official digital D&D content for all fifth edition products with flexible purchase options. You can pay only for the D&D content you need. If you only play fighters, for example, you’ll be able to just pick up the stuff you need to track swinging that giant two-handed sword. This is NOT a microtransaction model - we aren't forcing anyone to buy the content in small chunks - it can still be bought all at once. It's all just flexibility.
A small monthly subscription will be needed to manage more than a handful of characters and to enable more advanced features, like homebrew content integration. At this time, we don’t know exactly how much the subscription will cost, but please continue to check dndbeyond.com for the most up-to-date announcements and information!
I can't share much else yet, but we're terribly excited to get this into players' hands for the beta very, very soon. Thanks!


Well, that actually turns me right back off. A monthly subscription just to run a piece of software is not my idea of value. If I have to pay for the content AND still pay a monthly fee just to use the product, I'll be MUCH less likely to use it, much less likely.

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MendedWall12 wrote:
Well, that actually turns me right back off. A monthly subscription just to run a piece of software is not my idea of value. If I have to pay for the content AND still pay a monthly fee just to use the product, I'll be MUCH less likely to use it, much less likely.

More than a handful of characters. Meh, I will probably be using it more as a reference tool. I prefer to make my character sheets on the computer and print them out. :p

Don't plan to subscribe, but using it to reference rules, tables, and especially spells would be tremendously helpful.

I am also signed up for the beta, so I will see how it works before I pay any money for it.

It would be nice to be able to register your physical books to gain access, or at least a reduced price for the matching digital content.

Anyway, I actually think that this was announced way in advance, because they want to tap the community for the beta. It is what made 5e a success to begin with, and following that model is a good choice in my mind. Especially if the listen to our input.


DDB wrote:
A [...] monthly subscription will be needed to [...] enable [...] homebrew content integration.

That doesn't sound too appealing, but I'll wait till we have more info to make a call either way.

The fact that it's a web app is great. It'll be well worth the one-time fee if I can scrape out the data that wasn't released as part of the SRD and use it for my own (my own local use only) apps and little scripts. It would be so nice to be able to whip up a little treasure generator (to use in partially automated dungeon stocking) without having to type all that in from the DMG. Provided, of course, that the law allows it, I wouldn't want to do anything against the 5e team's wishes or that would go against the guidelines of this forum. It was just an idea.


Honestly I would really really like it if more roleplaying books were released completely in semantically marked up form. I'm trying to work with a couple of chapters from ACKS now and even though those chapters are (generously) released under the OGL, I only have the PDF and it's rough trying to convert stuff over to text or data. I imagine that the data in DDB might be obfuscated or even incomplete (i.e. they don't put in the treasure tables, they just put some obfuscated java script ditty in there).

Roleplaying is a medium that's based in creativity, and it really mixes well with being able to mashup, remix, combine etc. It hasn't really entered the digital age in that regard, though.


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Okay all, open beta started today. The website www.dndbeyond.com, which is open to everyone, you need only signup for a free Twitch account to access, currently has the SRD rules compendium (though it isn't searchable at this point, which is a major disappointment, but something that they indicated they are working on for the future), searchable spell compendium, searchable item compendium, and searchable monster compendium. So far I am really digging the VERY user friendly interface, and the very friendly staff communication. I just posted something asking for a PbP section of the forums, and someone got back to me within three minutes and said that a new section of the forums would be added with that heading right away! How's that for turnaround. Since right now the only thing they have going is really searchable rules, it isn't much different than the PRD, or d20pfsrd for Pathfinder, but, there are smaller subsettings of things, that make it easier. For example you can pick a category of monster, like celestial, and then narrow it down even further by challenge rating, size, or environment. Like I said, I'm really digging how user friendly the interface is. It makes it easy to find what you're looking for with very little search-fu. They also seem very open to adding in user suggestions. The character creation and maintenance part of the site is coming later, so I'll pop back in after that is unlocked, and let you know what I think. Right now, besides the main rules not being searchable, I'd say it's two big thumbs way up. ;D

Edit: In the time it took me to pop over here and type this, they already put a PbP section into the forums... That's lightning fast customer service!! :)

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