Core races-all announced?


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Scarab Sages

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What the titles says: do we have all the core races announced as yet? Or are we still missing some?


sanwah68 wrote:
What the titles says: do we have all the core races announced as yet? Or are we still missing some?

They've announced the following races: Human, Lashunta, Kasatha, Android, and Ratfolk/ysoki. We have two that are unnanounced.

races explained:
That being said, Kasatha stats are op (4 arms and no natural penalties, +2 dex and con I believe) and ratfolk have a "Swarming" racial ability that make them pretty fun to use. Lashunta = humans with some minor differences (males=dwarves, females=elves), androids are androids.

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I'm pretty excited to hear more about the Kasatha after Iron Gods.

Minor Iron Gods spoilers:

They're very flavorful, and are basically nonexistant on Golarian, so their presence in Starfinder is likely from outside of Golarian's solar system. Since their world was basically stone age at the point the Destiny passed through and picked up the few that came to Golarian, it'll be interesting to see what their culture and civilization became in the intervening time.

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Thanks all....I was wondering if I missed an announcement...but obviously not.


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I had assumed that the core races were known races -- we just didn't know which ones were core yet.

But the mention of the otherwise unknown "Shirren" in the Starfinder Compatibility license suggests that at least one of the core races may be completely new.

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We've been told several times that the missing two races are much less "standard humanoid" than the ones we've seen so far.


When will we begin to see previews for the products?


Maybe starting next month (or the one after that). Apparently the beast of a tome gets sent to the printers some time this month.

In all likelihood some feedback will occur, then last minute editing, then a lot of the team will likely cash in some vacation time. Or collapse in moaning, twitching heaps and wish they could.


Duiker wrote:

I'm pretty excited to hear more about the Kasatha after Iron Gods.

** spoiler omitted **

I get the impression that Starfinder is around 12,000 years after the Androffa Epoch, possibly more and maybe, just maybe a little less but 12K seems about right from what timelines we can piece together. 10K at a bare minimum anyways. So its possible that the Kasatha have not only developed a completely different society but that their racial modifiers have changed after no longer needing to live in tribal, hunter-gatherer groups. Given that almost every race we are expecting from Core is a member of an extremely advanced society i wonder how common mental stat and dex boosts will be over STR/CON boosts. And is there a mechanism to reflect a system of higher learning at all?

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As noted, we have 2 yet to formally announced.

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I hope the wait won't be long for this announcement.

Scarab Sages Developer, Starfinder Team

Me too!


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
As noted, we have 2 yet to formally announced.

And by the way you spelled "2" instead of "two" we're going to obsessively assume that you're passing some sort of secret message. Trox? Thri-Keen? SPACE DROW? ARE WE GETTING SPACE DROW?


assume any race found on Golarion could show up in the system if only in a minor role, so yes, Space Drow. Sprow?


New races will be fun, but still gonna use Advanced Race Guide :)


Torbyne wrote:
assume any race found on Golarion could show up in the system if only in a minor role, so yes, Space Drow. Sprow?

Yes but...will they fight a race of Aasimar in fancy dress?

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*crosses fingers and hopes for flumphs*

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I want Catfolk.....just so I can use this Figure:Clipper


Star flumphs would be great.


Matthew Shelton wrote:
Star flumphs would be great.

Make it a core race, 2017.

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
As noted, we have 2 yet to formally announced.

The grammar nazis have arrived. "We have 2 races yet to formally ANNOUNCED." This should either be ANNOUNCE, or you need to add a "be" (making it "yet to BE formally announced")


lordofthemax wrote:
sanwah68 wrote:
What the titles says: do we have all the core races announced as yet? Or are we still missing some?

They've announced the following races: Human, Lashunta, Kasatha, Android, and Ratfolk/ysoki. We have two that are unnanounced.

races explained:
That being said, Kasatha stats are op (4 arms and no natural penalties, +2 dex and con I believe) and ratfolk have a "Swarming" racial ability that make them pretty fun to use. Lashunta = humans with some minor differences (males=dwarves, females=elves), androids are androids.

They said something about some of the races being more powerful in SF than they were/are in PF, so...


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And this setting may have a different concept of what is considered balanced as well -- for example, melee combat ability may have less value given the power of the ranged weapons that PCs are likely to carry.


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Star flumphs would be BRILLIANT! A non-humanoid race is really what a sci-fi setting needs.


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deadboy wrote:
Star flumphs would be BRILLIANT! A non-humanoid race is really what a sci-fi setting needs.

Aren't all flumphs "star" flumphs? I never really got the idea that lore wise there was such thing as a terrestrial flumph, or a flumph that does not make a good frisbee.

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deadboy wrote:
Star flumphs would be BRILLIANT! A non-humanoid race is really what a sci-fi setting needs.

Dibs on getting to play a hooloovoo.


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Shisumo wrote:
deadboy wrote:
Star flumphs would be BRILLIANT! A non-humanoid race is really what a sci-fi setting needs.
Dibs on getting to play a hooloovoo.

Tell you what: you can be a hooloovoo, and I'll take a mattress. Sound good?


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I'm hoping for playable Contemplatives. I must be weird atrophied brain creature. I demand it!


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Simeon wrote:
I'm hoping for playable Contemplatives. I must be weird atrophied brain creature. I demand it!

That Free RPG Day product Starfinder First Contact has this in its blurb: "Player-race information to let you be the alien, from the atrophied psychic creatures called contemplatives to the bug-like haan who float across gas giants on balloons of spun webbing."

So Contemplatives probably won't be a core race but will be in the game as playable aliens.


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David knott 242 wrote:
Simeon wrote:
I'm hoping for playable Contemplatives. I must be weird atrophied brain creature. I demand it!

That Free RPG Day product Starfinder First Contact has this in its blurb: "Player-race information to let you be the alien, from the atrophied psychic creatures called contemplatives to the bug-like haan who float across gas giants on balloons of spun webbing."

So Contemplatives probably won't be a core race but will be in the game as playable aliens.

The newly announced Alien Archive also mentions something like them as well.


David knott 242 wrote:

And this setting may have a different concept of what is considered balanced as well -- for example, melee combat ability may have less value given the power of the ranged weapons that PCs are likely to carry.

The paizo demonstration session in January does not support this. The ranged weapons were woeful all around. 1d4+0 for all pew-pews, except the droid's slugthrower.


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Do you recall anyone doing any better with melee attacks? I do not recall anyone making anything but ranged attacks.

But I do recall seeing 9-level spellcasters described as not being balanced for the setting, as full spellcasting does not leave enough room for other capabilities that Starfinder adventurers are expected to have.


The solarion was doing d6+2 (or thereabouts) with his class specific energy blade, by and large he only engaged in melee. He also took full actions to attack twice, something no one did with guns, but which the technomancer did with magic missile, to get a third missile. Given that they were apparently 2nd level, having 2 missiles base was interesting in its own right.

The mechanic had a booster ability for his gun (+1d6, but used more ammo, used once) and the technomancer had a big damage booster spell (+4d6, but halved due to it being used with an area attack, which was a spray fired by the drone's slug thrower). She also shot/cast energy rays at things that did d6, but they struck me as being very similar to the cleric's fire/water/etc domain powers that give energy rays.

Based on very little, I suspect the solarion's energy blade damage is the monk/ war priest damage progression, but that is just speculation on my part.

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Just letting you all know that we're planning to announce one of the two new core races on the blog *this week*. :D


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Space Frogs? ... Can we tri-wield laser pistols with Space Frog tongues?!


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Torbyne wrote:
Space Frogs? ... Can we tri-wield laser pistols with Space Frog tongues?!

You're thinking to small! Space frogs... with two tongues! Four laser pistols!


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Is the RPG world really ready for Sgt. Frog?


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BretI wrote:
Is the RPG world really ready for Sgt. Frog?

I doubt any world is truly ready for those nutjobs.

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James Sutter wrote:
Just letting you all know that we're planning to announce one of the two new core races on the blog *this week*. :D

*crosses fingers and hopes for flumphs*


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Are we coming up on weekly preview season?


James Sutter wrote:
Just letting you all know that we're planning to announce one of the two new core races on the blog *this week*. :D

Can we get a date on that blog?


Somewhere between 14th to the 17th, I'd expect.


Just squeed myself. I'm officially a happy camper.


sanwah68 wrote:

I want Catfolk.....just so I can use this Figure:Clipper

While you're waiting for Starfinder, you can still play a Small catfloof in Pathfinder.


Archmage Variel wrote:
Torbyne wrote:
Space Frogs? ... Can we tri-wield laser pistols with Space Frog tongues?!
You're thinking to small! Space frogs... with two tongues! Four laser pistols!

Yay! Wait... this might be too much for me, is the second tongue a cyborg implant, split tongue as some humans do, genetic manipulation or blessing from a god of chaos? Cuase i am not down for like... maybe one of those options.

... Picturing smug Space Frog who is always smiling and fights with arms crossed as they tongue-pistol blast and tongue-pistol whip enemies....


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Well, as far as announcements go and in addition to today's blog entry on the Vesk, the Paizo Twitter account revealed this image.


Ashanderai wrote:
Well, as far as announcements go and in addition to today's blog entry on the Vesk, the Paizo Twitter account revealed this image.

What is that space cat with the drone? It doesnt look like Lashunta or Ysoki...


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Torbyne wrote:
Ashanderai wrote:
Well, as far as announcements go and in addition to today's blog entry on the Vesk, the Paizo Twitter account revealed this image.
What is that space cat with the drone? It doesnt look like Lashunta or Ysoki...

I don't think that is a "space cat".

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It looks more insectoid to me... and honestly, that is one of the classic tropes we are so far lacking.


yeah, but thats the best description i could think of on the fly. any ideas though? Does it match a previously known species i am not thinking of?


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If that insectoid guy is the Shirren, then all of the core races are basically humanoid in form, with all but the Ysoki Ratfolk being size Medium. The alternative is that this illustration is not limited to core races.

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