Endless Sympathetic Rage - do i read this right?


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ok so lets take this in stages

the feat Sympathetic Rage say that : "There is no limit to how long you can rage, as long as you remain adjacent to a raging ally"
the source of that rage is unmentioned, and this feat itself clearly states that the weak rage it gives is a RAGE so what is there to prevent two orcs (or others who somehow got the feat later on about that) to have the first rage for 1 round. in the 2nd guy turn he enter a rage since the 1st one is raging, then on the 1st one next turn he can enter a weak rage since he is next to a raging ally .and so on and so for. true, this is a weaker rage and they must stay near one an other but as long as they do the rage last and it only cost 1 round of rage from one of them. (great for raging archers).
(ok there might be a small glitch if the 2nd rage ends in the same time of the 1st if he stops raging. so he wastes 2 rage rounds and on his 2nd round enter the weakened rage as well. there is nothing stopping him from being raged from 2 different things as long as he doesn't try to stack them,but once he gets into the weaker rage them two can keep it for ever,until they get fatigued that is)

and if that work they can go on using stuff like amplified rage to boost it and Warleader's Rage to continue it active at 30 ft apart (after the first one activated the feat on his 2nd turn )

hack if this work some1 like an Inquisitor with anger Inquisition from ether the Sacred Huntsmaster or the Monster Tactician arch-types can run this with his animal companion\summons (and with animal companion or a summon you can mount staying close is even a benefit)


"You cannot use this feat when you are fatigued." That stops the endless rage right there, because to enter the weaker rage you need to leave the normal one, and that leaves you fatigued.


As we all know, there are ways to not be fatigued at the end of a rage, but I guess your two orcs would have to remain stationary, or move by 5 feet each round or with readied actions, so yeah, be my guest.


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That defers the endless rage until you are high enough level to have Tireless Rage or a similar ability that prevents fatigue at the end of your rage.

You would probably want to have Combat Stamina as well as this feat -- then you only need to be within 30 feet of your ally to keep raging.

Finally, the source of this feat is the Advanced Race Guide.


Alderic wrote:
As we all know, there are ways to not be fatigued at the end of a rage, but I guess your two orcs would have to remain stationary, or move by 5 feet each round or with readied actions, so yeah, be my guest.

Coordinated Charge?


Have a line of orcs, all with the feat, the first rages, and all the others use the feat one by one, then the first one stops raging and walks away to rest under a tree and admires the destruction he just caused.

Also, given the prerequisites of Coordinated Charge, I think that, if you have several orcs with the rage ability and that feat, the fight will not last long enough for them to run out of rounds of normal rage.


Azten wrote:
"You cannot use this feat when you are fatigued." That stops the endless rage right there, because to enter the weaker rage you need to leave the normal one, and that leaves you fatigued.

as i said you can enter this rage while raging nothing say you can't have two rage effects on you they just don't stack. hell they can even do it in the same round entering rage is a free action so 1st go into rage and delay or ready an action or to rage when the 2nd one does.

the thing might prevent him from continuing raging while fatigued, for that there are many ways off. my question still remain. is this an opening for an endless rage?


No, as soon as orc 1 stops his normal rage, orc 2 stops the rage granted by sympathetic rage.

There is no one raging for orc 1 to use sympathetic rage with.

As for the idea that orc 1 rages, orc 2 gets sympathetic rage, allowing orc 1 to enter sympathetic rage, and then there is no original rager...it's obviously a cheesy way to imagine it. There is nothing I can point to and say this is clearly wrong, except that it feels obviously wrong and I'm positive you need one original person actually raging.

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