Hi everyone!
My swashbuckler recently became a paladin. He's struggling with "being a good guy". His personality profile is as follows: cowardly, arrogant, judgmental, know-it-all, racist/ speciest/ hater of poor people, conservative. He's a former soldier and officer and he is a taldan noble, but the seventh son of a large family, so no inheritance for him - that's why he became a pathfinder, which he views as kind of a gentleman's club. He was CN, and now he's LG.
He recently had a near-death encounter and discovered the value of friendship, teamwork and the belief in a higher power. So now he turned to the way of the paladin and tries to amend his ways.
I initially settled on Aroden as his god, but maybe some other god would fit such a character as his, better?
Any ideas? :)
Saranrae, as he has a bit of redemption and turning his life around thing going on.
Iomadae is arodens inheritor.
Angradd, Torags more offensive brother if there was anything dwarfy about him or his conversion
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I'd just thumb through the deities a bit and find one that speaks to you. Just in reading lore, you could find something about them that's interesting and have your character be like "oh wow, so and so did this, and it made me think that maybe I should reform." Something like that.
Chronicles of the Righteous has some boss Empyreal Lords if you're in the market for one too.
Final note, you can't pick Aroden cause he's dead, and you have to get your god-magic from a living god. Sorry :(
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An aged tengu grandmother opines...
"Child, I know you're eager and all, but the path of a paladin is a really tough haul. It's going to take a lot of time, a lot of work, you'll have setbacks but you'll be expected t' overcome 'em.
But if I haven't scared you away, you should be aware that Andoletta appreciates someone who pulls themselves up by their bootstraps an' is constantly workin' ever' day to make the world a better place. She doesn't care that you may have been a bit of a shiftless layabout, as long as you're willin' to keep workin' now that you've found 'er.
Granted, she's not the sort to be swinging around a katana typically, but she's also the one what understands a good rap to the back of the noggin' for folks what are being foolish is sometimes needed."
There are lots of odd empyreal lords out there for the picking. Personally, the cowardice thing made me think of Jaidz, the empyreal lord of cowards, youths, and the untested. He seeks to inspire courage in cowardly and anxious mortals and guide the immature through compassion and guidance.
Shelyn is another possibility for a gentleman paladin type. One who pictures his swordplay as an art and through his near death experience is starting to see the (figurative) beauty in other races and/or jolly cooperation.
And depending on how you roleplay your Sheylnite you may gain the admiration and respect of her brother's worshipers.
Hi everyone!
My swashbuckler recently became a paladin. He's struggling with "being a good guy". His personality profile is as follows: cowardly, arrogant, judgmental, know-it-all, racist/ speciest/ hater of poor people, conservative. He's a former soldier and officer and he is a taldan noble, but the seventh son of a large family, so no inheritance for him - that's why he became a pathfinder, which he views as kind of a gentleman's club. He was CN, and now he's LG.
He recently had a near-death encounter and discovered the value of friendship, teamwork and the belief in a higher power. So now he turned to the way of the paladin and tries to amend his ways.
I initially settled on Aroden as his god, but maybe some other god would fit such a character as his, better?
Any ideas? :)
The process of becoming a paladin probably should involve reducing the level of discrimination your character has against...well everyone it seems.
In game, you don't have one "near-death" encounter and instantly become a Paladin. You would have to work at redeeming yourelf as a person. I could see maybe you working to be CG, but switching from CN to LG is a long haul, personality wise. Near-death experience can begin the process of introspection and contemplation that could end in paladin-hood. But along the way, you probably find the right god for you.
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The process of becoming a paladin probably should involve reducing the level of discrimination your character has against...well everyone it seems.
In game, you don't have one "near-death" encounter and instantly become a Paladin. You would have to work at redeeming yourelf as a person. I could see maybe you working to be CG, but switching from CN to LG is a long haul, personality wise. Near-death experience can begin the process of introspection and contemplation that could end in paladin-hood. But along the way, you probably find the right god for you.
The fun part of PFS and the undefined time between scenarios is that years of soul-searching and atonement can happen off-screen, while you're on a short boat trip between parts 2 and 3 of a series.
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The fun part of PFS and the undefined time between scenarios is that years of soul-searching and atonement can happen off-screen, while you're on a short boat trip between parts 2 and 3 of a series.
also have a chaotic swashbuckler going paladin. What i had in my head was pretty much assault on the wound, so when i ran that I gave him the credit for it.
"I saw very brave people individually rushing into combat... to their deaths. They were brave. they were skilled. They were dashing.. and they were dashed to splinters. Because they stood alone. Against this level of threat we need to unite and stand together, or be struck down individually"
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OP's character reminds me very strongly of my TN Ranger in RotRL. And he would have been CE if he thought he could get away with it but too cowardly to actually act the part. Think Back to the future's Biff Tannen
As an archer, he worshipped Erastil. Unforeseen circumstances forced him down the Paladin path
Hardest part was giving the benefit of doubt and not shoot first
Check which god with Paladins would have been of some interest to your swashbuckler
I would say Iomedae, Erastil, Abadar or Torag might fit
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Erastil and Sarenrae are the best options from the core deities
(although technically you could also select LN Abadar, LG Iomedae, LN Irori, NG shelyn or LG Torag none of these seem to have the right portfolio to me – though Abadar is more like the old swashbuckler, none reflect both or the new paladin well)
Sarenrae might be what you want – but to me it seems like too big a swing to go from a Taldan snob swashbuckler to worshiping a Kelshite goddess of honesty and redemption – She is either the big change you want to demonstrate your transformation or too big a change to feel realistic to you.
Erastil is the LG god of community – but not that popular in Taldor (popular with the Ulfen ethnicity in the north he is also god of farming and hunting which is not Taldor’s strong suit)
Kurgess – NG god of bravery competition and sport also happens to be Taldan. Seems not a complete departure from the character’s roots – despite flipping cowardice to bravery - while still being a decent fit with the new paladin role – this one seems like the right fit to me
Alseta is the LN goddess of doors and transitions – though most popular with elves, perhaps your paladin might help others make the transition to good or selfless behavior
A couple others that might work:
Grundinnar, LG Dwarven god of friendship and loyalty (most dwarven gods can have paladins but this is in my opinion the best choice
Jaidz a NG Agathion Empyreal lord of cowards and untested youths, known as fearless claw his form is of a black and white tiger and helps the cowards and anxious turn fear to bravery – again many empyreal lords support paladins but this is the best choice to match
Thank you everyone :)
I've decided to go with Kurgess as he fits the character quite well.
The character hasn't really renounced his old ways - more like viewed them in a new light. So the redemption focus doesn't really fit him.
"Dogma
Kurgess strongly believes that competition is healthy, as long as all the participants are playing by the same rules. He detests cheating, seeing it as a sign of moral defect. He encourages mortals to challenge themselves and push beyond their comfort zones, hoping to inspire greatness and the setting of even higher goals. The Strong Man also teaches how not to be a sore loser, as well as how to be a graceful winner." From; http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Kurgess
This is quite wonderfull and I can easily make my character quite the douchebag by adhering to these words, while still being all paladin-y about it. Wonderful :)
I know this was resolved now, but I just want to state my disappointment at nobody mentioning Olheon.
Final note, you can't pick Aroden cause he's dead, and you have to get your god-magic from a living god. Sorry :(
That only applies to clerics, and even then is a soft rule. Nothing rules-wise about paladins having to worship any god at all in fact - only some fluff text.
I don't think that is true for Pathfinder Society; https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Nr2iYnlyiSWGZDdElZNTBOcFU/view - apparently worshippers of deities have to have a deity to gain spells in PFS.