Reliable Maneuver vs. Meditative Maneuver


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So I have a maneuver master monk focusing on trip and bull rush (looking at Ki throw + spinning throw) with the idea of throwing people all over the battlefield. Spinning Throw gives me a bull rush after a trip with a penalty and later flurry of maneuvers gives me a second (and then third) maneuver with a large penalty. My question is: Is it better to take the WIS bonus to negate the penalty or roll twice hoping for one good roll?

Reliable Maneuver:
At 4th level, as a swift action,a maneuver master may spend 1 point from his ki pool before attempting a combat maneuver. He can roll his combat maneuver check for that maneuver twice and use the better result. This ability replaces slow fall..

Meditative Maneuver:
At 5th level, as a swift action,
a maneuver master can add his Wisdom modifier on any
combat maneuver check he makes before the beginning
of his next turn. He must choose which combat maneuver
check to grant the bonus to before making the combat
maneuver check. This ability replaces purity of body.

Spinning Throw:
You whirl your foe around and then let go.
Prerequisites: Combat Expertise, Improved Bull Rush,
Improved Trip, Improved Unarmed Strike, Ki Throw.
Benefit: On a successful unarmed trip combat maneuver
against an opponent your size or smaller, you can spend
a swift action to attempt a bull rush combat maneuver
against that opponent. If your bull rush succeeds, you
can move that opponent to any unoccupied square you
threaten, then push that opponent the number of 5-foot
increments your successful bull rush allows. The target is
then knocked prone. If the bull rush fails, you can use the
Ki Throw feat as normal.
If you also have the Improved Ki Throw feat, a successful
bull rush allows you to push the opponent into a space
secondary targets occupy. You resolve this effect as if you
used the Improved Ki Throw feat to throw the opponent into
that space.
Special: Per the Ki Throw feat, a monk can use ki to affect
creatures larger than himself with this feat.


Old thread, but I'm looking at something similar myself.

What a load of bullocks that the two abilities can't be used together, even on two separate maneuvers.

It depends on the WIS bonus I suppose. A reroll could potentially give you an increase of 19, but also of 0, whereas your WIS is a sure bet of 3-6 or so. I'd probably tend to take the sure thing. Ki is too hard to come by to waste on chance.


Meditative Maneuver doesn't burn a ki point, just requires a swift action to activate.

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