Chemlak |
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For the record, fully intending to back this (just need to get to my desktop and figure out what level). I love rules for things. I'm mostly just giving the authors the chance to say "we know, don't worry, we got it covered".
Chemlak |
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Moskau wrote:Rysky wrote:Really liking the art so far.Me too, which is why I pledged for an iconic.Same ^w^
That Elf/Drow pick is absolutely GORGEOUS.
Also, in case you need some more artists if this does well I know of a couple :3
Pretty sure I won't be able to pledge that much (saving for soooo many things), but I absolutely agree on that picture: it's beautiful and if anyone can confirm the artist, I'd like to talk to them about a commission.
Rysky |
Rysky wrote:Pretty sure I won't be able to pledge that much (saving for soooo many things), but I absolutely agree on that picture: it's beautiful and if anyone can confirm the artist, I'd like to talk to them about a commission.Moskau wrote:Rysky wrote:Really liking the art so far.Me too, which is why I pledged for an iconic.Same ^w^
That Elf/Drow pick is absolutely GORGEOUS.
Also, in case you need some more artists if this does well I know of a couple :3
Seconded!
Zelgadas Greyward |
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Good stuff!
Thanks!
And hey again Rysky - I told you in the other thread that I'd been busy with a big project. Here it is!
If you liked my work in other threads, then you should like this as well.
As to the "rules for sex" bit - we specifically created a two-tier system to deal with that. Just want to know if everyone had a good time? One roll and done. All of the alternative class features (and there are a lot of those!), feats, and spells work perfectly fine if that is as much depth as your gaming table is comfortable with.
On the other hand, if your table prefers a more detailed approach, we have full rules for arousal, foreplay, and sex (and that's any form of sex, for any combination of preferences and gender identities).
In addition, we also have plenty of rules for what happens before and after sex. Seduction - getting someone to the bedroom (or where ever) gets at least as much attention.
Plus, everything works off of existing skills and abilities. We don't introduce anything that fundamentally changes the system like a seventh stat (as much as I loved the Book of Erotic Fantasy, that threw a wrench into games badly).
just don't forget some of your older reading material when writing this. I am of course talking about 'the Book of Erotic Fantasy' from the 3.5 era.
Of course not - The Book of Erotic Fantasy, the Book of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Nymphology: Blue Magic, the Quintessential Temptress, and Sisters of Rapture - they are some of many inspirations that helped shape the Book of Passion.
I'm pledged. I suspect this project will be touch and go, but who knows?
Calm, mature, and sex-positive has been our mantra on this project.
I was always turned off by the uncomfortable humor that featured in more than one of the books mentioned above. That's one reason my favorite of the booked mentioned above were the Book of Erotic Fantasy and Sisters of Rapture - both had a cool, calm perspective on the subject that tried to be inclusive.
Zelgadas Greyward |
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Glad to hear all that Zelgadas.
Backer #11, passed it by the wife and she thought it sounded interesting.
Hoping for the best folks!
Thanks!
Having run many games with my wife that playtested various elements of this book (archetypes, feats, spells, etc), I can say that the rules presented in the Book of Passion do an excellent job of creating a "romance game" if that's something one is in to.
Not that they have to - I've also playtested stuff in standard games without issue. But, if one is inclined to create a more romantically themed game, the Book of Passion will be an invaluable resource.
For example, if there are any Kushiel's Legacy fans in the room - that novel series helped to inspire several class archetypes, feats, and spells in this book. And, weirdly, so did the Dresden Files. What can I say - our inspirations were many and varied.
Edit: Speaking of Kushiel, I think my copy of Miranda and Caliban just arrived.
Moskau |
For example, if there are any Kushiel's Legacy fans ...And, weirdly, so did the Dresden Files. What can I say - our inspirations were many and varied.
Sold!
It seems like the BoEF is a huge inspiration, and while that's a good thing, I am really glad you didn't copy their art direction.
Zelgadas Greyward |
Zelgadas Greyward wrote:
For example, if there are any Kushiel's Legacy fans ...And, weirdly, so did the Dresden Files. What can I say - our inspirations were many and varied.Sold!
It seems like the BoEF is a huge inspiration, and while that's a good thing, I am really glad you didn't copy their art direction.
Oh my goodness no. Again, love the BoEF to death (and still proudly have a hardcover copy on my shelf), but the art was not a high point.
So far, I've only seen a little bit of the art being drawing specifically for this book, but what I have seen (by Marc Curlee) looks amazing. I'm also a fan of Jacob Blackmon's work, so I'm very excited to have him on the project as well.
Freehold DM |
Rysky wrote:Good stuff!Thanks!
And hey again Rysky - I told you in the other thread that I'd been busy with a big project. Here it is!
If you liked my work in other threads, then you should like this as well.
As to the "rules for sex" bit - we specifically created a two-tier system to deal with that. Just want to know if everyone had a good time? One roll and done. All of the alternative class features (and there are a lot of those!), feats, and spells work perfectly fine if that is as much depth as your gaming table is comfortable with.
On the other hand, if your table prefers a more detailed approach, we have full rules for arousal, foreplay, and sex (and that's any form of sex, for any combination of preferences and gender identities).
In addition, we also have plenty of rules for what happens before and after sex. Seduction - getting someone to the bedroom (or where ever) gets at least as much attention.
Plus, everything works off of existing skills and abilities. We don't introduce anything that fundamentally changes the system like a seventh stat (as much as I loved the Book of Erotic Fantasy, that threw a wrench into games badly).
Air0r wrote:just don't forget some of your older reading material when writing this. I am of course talking about 'the Book of Erotic Fantasy' from the 3.5 era.Of course not - The Book of Erotic Fantasy, the Book of Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Nymphology: Blue Magic, the Quintessential Temptress, and Sisters of Rapture - they are some of many inspirations that helped shape the Book of Passion.
Moskau wrote:I'm pledged. I suspect this project will be touch and go, but who knows?Calm, mature, and sex-positive has been our mantra on this project.
I was always turned off by the uncomfortable humor that featured in more than one of the books mentioned above. That's one reason my favorite of the booked mentioned above were the Book of Erotic Fantasy and Sisters of Rapture - both had a cool, calm...
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SEX POSITIVE
Rysky |
Rysky wrote:Well, imagine a skyclad Barbarian whose sweat during a rage makes a very particular effect to those around him...Bardess wrote:You're welcome to ask ^_^Yay!
What's the pheromone fury like?
Ooooo, I is excite!
Also I will go on the record as saying Skyclad is one of my favourite words :3
Alzrius |
Okay, so I just pledged at the color print book level, and I'm excited for the book, but I'm a little confused about some of the pledge levels.
For example, the $20 level says:
You receive a copy of the Book of Passion final PDF, with any additional classes released in the stretch goal, but no other stretch goals.
But according to the main listing, those additional classes are the only stretch goals for the book. Am I missing something?
(Also, you may need to ask the mods to move this to the "3.5" forum - this one is for products that use Paizo's Pathfinder Compatibility License, which this can't and doesn't seem to.)
Zelgadas Greyward |
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Since we're asking questions, how far into the kink/fetish rabbit hole does this book go?
For the most part, kinks and fetishes are handled by a pair of character traits (as in, Advanced Player's Guide style traits) that grant modifiers on sexual performance checks that involve specific kinks.
We don't try to define every single kink or fetish, if that's what you're asking. First, that would be a lot of extra pages, and secondly that assumes that we could fully understand and define every single fetish or kink out there, and that isn't reasonable. Better to keep the rules simple and general and let each individual player (or GM) define the details themselves.
That said, one of the example characters we present in the book is particularly in to BDSM. One of the planned pieces of artwork is one of her lovers tending the whip wounds inflicted by her other lover. She tends to go a bit too far with her Dom sometimes.
Edit: "Of course" sounded off to my ear when I read this message again later, so I changed it to "That said". "Of course" makes it sound like it's obvious, which is not what I meant.
Zelgadas Greyward |
But according to the main listing, those additional classes are the only stretch goals for the book. Am I missing something?
(Also, you may need to ask the mods to move this to the "3.5" forum - this one is for products that use Paizo's Pathfinder Compatibility License, which this can't and doesn't seem to.)
That's the FIRST stretch goal.
There are several more that I'm already aware of and possibly others that I'm not. Since Christina hasn't posted them yet, I assume I can't talk in more detail.
Of course, I think we may have already let a couple of hints about one of them slip. I won't say when or where though. :p
Zelgadas Greyward |
Because I'm awkward: does any of this tie into the relationship mechanics from Ultimate Campaign or (better yet) Ultimate Relationships?
I know some of the stuff Margherita (Bardess) wrote ties in to stuff from Ultimate Campaign.
As for the other, most of our work (not quit all, but most) ties in to Paizo published content rather than 3rd party. So no, we didn't touch on that book. In fact, prior to looking it up for your question, I had no idea it existed. I might pick it up - it looks interesting.
That said, I can't imagine any reason the rules wouldn't be compatible with one another.
Zelgadas Greyward |
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There wouldn't happen to be a lady/lad of negotiable attention archetype for the Vigilante that's very good at gleaming information from patrons would there? Or more talents (for any class really) like Companion to the Lonely, where you get buffs for after moments of intimacy?
Well, since the book is currently limited to Core classes, there won't be any Vigilante support - at least not until we hit some stretch goals.
That said, there are Core class archetypes that do what you're describing.
Christina Stiles Contributor |
Okay, so I just pledged at the color print book level, and I'm excited for the book, but I'm a little confused about some of the pledge levels.
For example, the $20 level says:
Quote:You receive a copy of the Book of Passion final PDF, with any additional classes released in the stretch goal, but no other stretch goals.But according to the main listing, those additional classes are the only stretch goals for the book. Am I missing something?
(Also, you may need to ask the mods to move this to the "3.5" forum - this one is for products that use Paizo's Pathfinder Compatibility License, which this can't and doesn't seem to.)
We have a bestiary in mind. Adventure. Short story. Just waiting for this to catch fire before laying it all out. Add-ones for prints possible, too.
Christina
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I just want to chime in that we have plenty of extra material in hand from the authors that we really want to include in the book. I want lots of beautiful art, too, so you will be proud to own the book. We could use your help in spreading the word. Above all, I want to see these authors' work come to beautiful fruition. They deserve that.
Christina
Chemlak |
Chemlak wrote:Because I'm awkward: does any of this tie into the relationship mechanics from Ultimate Campaign or (better yet) Ultimate Relationships?I know some of the stuff Margherita (Bardess) wrote ties in to stuff from Ultimate Campaign.
As for the other, most of our work (not quit all, but most) ties in to Paizo published content rather than 3rd party. So no, we didn't touch on that book. In fact, prior to looking it up for your question, I had no idea it existed. I might pick it up - it looks interesting.
That said, I can't imagine any reason the rules wouldn't be compatible with one another.
Thanks for the prompt answer. Pledged.
Not overly surprised that there's no links to Ultimate Relationships (though it is well worth having), and that's certainly not a deal-breaker in any way.
Looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
Oh, and I'm really serious about looking into getting a commission from the artist who did the drow/elf picture, please, please pass along that I'd love to hear from them about their rates, I can be contacted: <my forum name> at blueyonder dot co dot uk.