Bonus languages


Rules Questions


Do you get both the bonus languages for a high inelegance and the number of tanks you put in linguistics?


Yes. Note that most races have only a limited number of options they can choose from for their high intelligence.


Kind of. You only get bonus languages for a high intelligence. You get extra languages for each point of Linguistics (they aren't bonus because you had to put ranks in a skill for them).


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And AFAIK the bonus languages that you get for high intelligence must be from one of the lists you have access to, from race, class or other sources. The extra languages you get from linguistic skill point investment can be anything except restricted languages like Druidic. And some would argue even for that one.


Wheldrake wrote:
And AFAIK the bonus languages that you get for high intelligence must be from one of the lists you have access to, from race, class or other sources. The extra languages you get from linguistic skill point investment can be anything except restricted languages like Druidic. And some would argue even for that one.

Well, it is on the list in the Speak Language skill. And if druids lose their class abilities by teaching it, a non-druid would have to be able to learn it.


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As I said, "some" would argue this.

When I've got my DM hat on, I tell my players they have to logically posit a source for learning a language If one of the players wants to add ancient Thassilonian to his list of languages, he needs to posit access to multiple scrolls and books and perhpas some wise sage somewhere who could help him learn this unusual language.

As a player, I take it on myslef to only learn languages which I can posit access to. Like in Jade Regent, I learn Tian by spending weeks studying with Ameiko and a few books I managed to acquire.

However, the RAW never gets into this level of detail. So it's a houserule that you can choose to respect or ignore.


What are the PFS rules for Druidic?

The Exchange

Don't think so if you are not a druid....except maybe with a trait.

There are some who gives you more languages and in Heroes of the wild is the Feral Speech trait...but you have to be careful!


linguistics wrote:
Druidic (druids only)

I would be extremely surprised if non-druids were permitted to learn druidic in PFS. I'm not aware of anyway to bypass the restriction.

Feral speech does not work for PFS.

additional resources wrote:
Feral speech does not allow a PC to learn Druidic.


dragonhunterq wrote:
linguistics wrote:
Druidic (druids only)

I would be extremely surprised if non-druids were permitted to learn druidic in PFS. I'm not aware of anyway to bypass the restriction.

Feral speech does not work for PFS.

additional resources wrote:
Feral speech does not allow a PC to learn Druidic.

That table lists typical speakers. Typically, druids are the only ones who speak Druidic. That doesn't mean druids are the only speakers. Officially, there are non-druid speakers - all leshy can speak druidic. Though they are typically made by druids, anyone who can meet the requirements can make one. A ranger can meet the requirements for one of them without additional help. A multiclassed ranger/cleric can make all of them, and a ranger/wizard (or ranger/sorcerer) can make one as well.

Julunggali can speak druidic. Irminsul can't speak, but do know druidic and have telepathy. Theoretically they could still teach someone druidic. You aren't likely to come across either of these two, but it is still possible.

All of those creatures are not druids, but speak druidic. None of them are bound by the druids vow against teaching druidic.


I'm going to take "only" as explicitly limiting, even in a list that talks about 'typically'.

And at least one of your critters will absolutely respect the vow against teaching druidic.

Julungalli wrote:
...and has been known to punish those who break social taboos.

I'd say that the Leshy would more likely than not respect it too, seeing as most seem to require being created by a Druid and retain strong ties to nature.

Irminsul you'd have a chance with the right conditions I guess, but I'd not count on it. They'd still fall on the 'keep on the good side of the druids' IMO.
YMMV


dragonhunterq wrote:

I'm going to take "only" as explicitly limiting, even in a list that talks about 'typically'.

And at least one of your critters will absolutely respect the vow against teaching druidic.

Julungalli wrote:
...and has been known to punish those who break social taboos.

I'd say that the Leshy would more likely than not respect it too, seeing as most seem to require being created by a Druid and retain strong ties to nature.

Irminsul you'd have a chance with the right conditions I guess, but I'd not count on it. They'd still fall on the 'keep on the good side of the druids' IMO.
YMMV

I wouldn't count something specific to druids as being a social taboo. But opinions on that would vary.

As I said, nothing requires you to be a druid to create a leshy. Nothing about the leshy in general says they act like druids or follow druidic traditions. Applying the same restrictions a druid has to them is a house rule.

The point is, even if ultimately unlikely, there are ways for a non-druid to learn and speak druidic. You can certainly apply houserules and roleplaying restrictions to that, but as far as he rules are concerned non-druids can have the language.

The Exchange

dragonhunterq wrote:


Feral speech does not work for PFS.

additional resources wrote:
Feral speech does not allow a PC to learn Druidic.

THX!

Hadn't in mind!

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