Let's stat some good outsiders


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When I picked up Heaven Unleashed I was disappointed. The problem was not the quality of the material but the actual rules for some of the beings the book presents.
For example, Andoletta is supposed to be a CR 28 encounter but when compared with most demon lords or archdevils she seems to be woefully inadequate (stawise) to deal with such creatures.

So here's my challenge: take an empyreal lord (Chronicle of the righteous has a list if you need it) and give him or her stats.

Ragathiel, Pulura, Smiad... there's many of them and they should not feel like second class demi goods to their evil counterparts!


That's why the good beings need heroes... to do the things they can't manage.


Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
That's why the good beings need heroes... to do the things they can't manage.

Actually you could be playing evil characters and then you'd need strong good guys. Besides I don't think giving some good ousiders stats on par with those of their evil counterparts will make PCs redundant in any way (for example check out a certain AP where a powerful witch is somehow able to trap a foe capable of smaking around demon lords...).

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