Bladed Brush, Spear Dancing Style, and Precise Strike questions


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Questions involving the interactions of two feats from two different player companion books! I'm sure this will end well.

Bladed Brush:
Paths of the Righteous wrote:

Bladed Brush: You can use the Weapon Finesse feat to apply your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to attack rolls with a glaive sized for you, even though it isn’t a light weapon. When wielding a glaive, you can treat it as a one-handed piercing or slashing melee weapon and as if you were not making attacks with your off-hand for all feats and class abilities that require such a weapon (such as a duelist’s or swashbuckler’s precise strike).

As a move action, you can shorten your grip on the glaive, treating it as though it lacked the reach weapon property. You can adjust your grip to grant the weapon the reach property as a move action.

So, okay, I know there's a rather sprawling thread about using Bladed Brush with Slashing Grace or the magus's spell combat class feature. And so I don't really want to get into that because after the first page or so the thread kind of goes off the rails. Let me assume for these questions that a brush wielder uses two hands to paint with. (This means that while you can select a glaive as your Slashing Grace weapon, you can never actually use it. A gelatinous cube falls prone.)

Spear Dancing Style:
Weapon Master's Handbook wrote:

Spear Dancing Style: Choose one weapon from the polearm or spear fighter weapon groups. While using this style, you grant the chosen weapon the double special weapon feature, using the weapon's normal statistics for its main-hand end and the statistics of a light mace for its off-hand end.

A weapon wielded in this way loses the brace and reach special weapon features.

Precise Strike deed:
Advanced Class Guide wrote:
Precise Strike (Ex): At 3rd level, while she has at least 1 panache point, a swashbuckler gains the ability to strike precisely with a light or one-handed piercing melee weapon (though not natural weapon attacks), adding her swashbuckler level to the damage dealt. To use this deed, a swashbuckler cannot attack with a weapon in her other hand or use a shield other than a buckler. She can even use this ability with thrown light or one-handed piercing melee weapons, so long as the target is within 30 feet of her. Any creature that is immune to sneak attacks is immune to the additional damage granted by precise strike, and any item or ability that protects a creature from critical hits also protects a creature from the additional damage of a precise strike. This additional damage is precision damage, and isn't multiplied on a critical hit. As a swift action, a swashbuckler can spend 1 panache point to double her precise strike's damage bonus on the next attack. This benefit must be used before the end of her turn, or it is lost. This deed's cost cannot be reduced by any ability or effect that reduces the amount of panache points a deed costs (such as the Signature Deed feat).

Question #1: Can a character with Bladed Brush use both Spear Dancing Style and a swashbuckler's/devoted muse's precise strike?

Question #2: Can you use the 'light mace' side of a Dancing Bladed Brush as a 'light piercing weapon' for the purposes of precise strike?

Question #3: If you wield an enchanted glaive with Spear Dancing Style, does the 'light mace' side keep the glaive's enchantment bonus? Or is this one of those 'you can't enchant the shield bonus granted by Two-Weapon Defense' sorts of deals?

Question #4: Can you use Bladed Brush's move action to restore the reach property of a glaive being wielded in the Spear Dancing Style?

buckler shield:
Core Rulebook wrote:
Buckler: This small metal shield is worn strapped to your forearm. You can use a bow or crossbow without penalty while carrying it. You can also use your shield arm to wield a weapon (whether you are using an off-hand weapon or using your off hand to help wield a two-handed weapon), but you take a –1 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. This penalty stacks with those that may apply for fighting with your off hand and for fighting with two weapons. In any case, if you use a weapon in your off hand, you lose the buckler's AC bonus until your next turn. You can cast a spell with somatic components using your shield arm, but you lose the buckler's AC bonus until your next turn. You can't make a shield bash with a buckler.

Please note that a buckler is not a feat nor a class ability.

Question #5: This one's a bonus question: What the heck is this lady doing with a buckler (or possibly a spiked light shield) on her arm? If Bladed Brush doesn't let her use a glaive one-handed, then what, is she taking the -1 to attack rolls (and gaining no shield bonus btw) for the lulz?


Yes, No, Probably, No, Artists do goofy stuff.


swoosh wrote:
Yes, No, Probably, No, Artists do goofy stuff.

Why would that be a No to question 2?

Silver Crusade

It's been stated several times that bucklers can be used with two-handed weapons because they aren't actually used in the hand, they are strapped to the forearm.


ohako wrote:
If Bladed Brush doesn't let her use a glaive one-handed, then what, is she taking the -1 to attack rolls (and gaining no shield bonus btw) for the lulz?

Why would she take -1 attack rolls? It's clearly a masterwork buckler...


Val'bryn2 wrote:
It's been stated several times that bucklers can be used with two-handed weapons because they aren't actually used in the hand, they are strapped to the forearm.

Please cite these sources.

You normally can’t use a buckler while using a two-handed weapon. You can use a two-handed weapon with the buckler strapped to your arm, but you lose the buckler’s AC Bonus for that turn. (Plus you take a -1 penalty on your attack rolls.)

UE wrote:

BUCKLER

Price 5 gp
Shield Bonus +1
This small metal shield is worn strapped to your forearm. You can use a bow or crossbow without penalty while carrying it. You can also use your shield arm to wield a weapon (whether you are using an off-hand weapon or using your off hand to help wield a two-handed weapon), but you take a –1 penalty on attack rolls while doing so. This penalty stacks with those that may apply for fighting with your off hand and for fighting with two weapons. In any case, if you use a weapon in your off hand, you lose the buckler's AC bonus until your next turn. You can cast a spell with somatic components using your shield arm, but you lose the buckler's AC bonus until your next turn. You can't make a shield bash with a buckler.


There is a clear argument that question #2 should be a "yes" RAW.

HOWEVER

RAI it is likely that Bladed Brush is meant to have a second line that says "when using a glaive as a glaive.

For example if one where using a glaive as an improvised weapon (see monk of the empty hand) then it is likely Bladed Brush would not apply. The butt of the staff is not an improvised weapon with Spear Dancing Style, but I think the concepts are similar.

TLDR
This is definitely deep in "ask your GM" territory.

Silver Crusade

Sorry, I was thinking about using it with Slashing Grace, Spell Combat, and similar things. My mistake.


Val'bryn2 wrote:
Sorry, I was thinking about using it with Slashing Grace, Spell Combat, and similar things. My mistake.

Spell Combat prevents you from using a buckler. It is a form of TWF in which your spell counts as your off-hand weapon so you lose the buckler’s AC Bonus. The Skirnir archetype gets the 8th level ability Shielded Spell Combat to get around this. Other Magi can use Spell Combat while keeping the AC Bonus by taking the Unhindering Shield Feat.

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