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Additional Resources says the feats on page 18-19 are legal for play. On page 18, in the preface description for "Animal Feats" it says we can swap the default familiar feat (like the racial feat) for one of these feat, if we meet the requirements. This aspect of the feats is not covered by additional resources, but seems kinda implied given that some of the feats cannot otherwise be obtained by Familiars.
Can we swap the default familiar feat in this manner?
If wondering, the list of feats it would allow a familar to swap for are:
Critical Conduit
Extra Item Slot
Familiar Focus
Jumper
Lithe Attacker (requires Narrow Frame)
Master of Your Kind
Narrow Frame
Spell Sponge
Stable Gallop
Sure-Footed
Valiant Steed
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BNW: So yes, that should be good.
One really, really weird PFS rule is that if you swap out weapon finesse, the familiar loses the ability to attack with their dexterity bonus, even though weapon finesse is redundant for familiars.
Wait...Are there other books that allow swapping of feats for familiars? I had certainly missed it being mentioned in other books. Didn't think I could get weapon finesse on a familiar at all (unless they start with it).
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Wait...Are there other books that allow swapping of feats for familiars?
None as far as i know. You can swap a familiar's feats for those specific feats you listed, but not for say, piranha strike from Sargova the lost colony or something.
Didn't think I could get weapon finesse on a familiar at all.
They don't need the feat
Attacks: Use the master's base attack bonus, as calculated from all his classes. Use the familiar's Dexterity or Strength modifier, whichever is greater, to calculate the familiar's melee attack bonus with natural weapons. Damage equals that of a normal creature of the familiar's kind.
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Didn't think I could get weapon finesse on a familiar at all.They don't need the feat
Attacks: Use the master's base attack bonus, as calculated from all his classes. Use the familiar's Dexterity or Strength modifier, whichever is greater, to calculate the familiar's melee attack bonus with natural weapons. Damage equals that of a normal creature of the familiar's kind.
That only applies to natural weapons, not unarmed strikes. Not all the familiar options have natural attacks, so some, like my Toad, are using melee touch (which uses unarmed strike mods to hit if you lack natural weapons) to deliver their touch attacks and are stuck with their -5 strength mod to deliver these...
Not expecting the Toad to become amazing anytime soon, but a -5 strength mod to deliver touch spells is really hurting this familar option.
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Weapon Finesse applies to Touch Attacks.Nothing in the feat suggests it does, touch attacks are not light weapons, rapiers, whips or spiked chains. Is there a FAQ somewhere?
This isn't in the feat. It's very indirectly described in the section regarding magical touch attacks of the CRB.
Basically, you can make the magical touch attacks as part of a natural attack or unarmed strike, which then allows you to apply the weapon finesse, because natural weapons and unarmed strikes are light weapons.
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Weapon Finesse applies to Touch Attacks.Nothing in the feat suggests it does, touch attacks are not light weapons, rapiers, whips or spiked chains. Is there a FAQ somewhere?
There need not be an FAQ. It's in the CRB.
Here's a thread where TOZ initially didn't think so, either, before it was pointed out to him.
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For the Toad, the issue is that he doesn't have weapon finesse. He's a familiar, so he has that quasi-weapon finesse which only applies to natural attacks. The Toad doesn't have natural attacks. So toads use their full strength (only 1) when making magical touch attacks to deliver spells. And since familars use the wizard's BAB, a familiar toad is actually hitting less often than a wild toad who is using the animal BAB. lol...
Anyway, I got my question answered.