Hey all...I've been running this Pathfinder campaign for just over 4 years now. All the characters are at least 15th level. My ongoing problem and destruction with my current dungeon lies with the paladin of the group. She has a nasty habit of 'Detect Evil' on EVERYTHING she comes across...
They are currently going to face powerful vampires who haven't revealed themselves yet. I know about Ring of Mind Shielding and other ways to make alignments undetectable. Is there a way to disguise an alignment as something else? ..say..Neutral? I haven't found anything in Pathfinder rules and I know my paladin will be instantly suspicious of an 'undetectable' alignment.
Any help is appreciated.
Keep in mind that a neutral character also radiates no alignment - there's no Detect Neutral, no Aura of Neutrality or anything like that. So it's hard to distinguish a druid from an undercover diabolist that way.
Ascalaphus wrote: Keep in mind that a neutral character also radiates no alignment - there's no Detect Neutral, no Aura of Neutrality or anything like that. So it's hard to distinguish a druid from an undercover diabolist that way. Excellent point, I feel a little stupid now. I guess I keep thinking of old D&D spells like 'Know Alignment'.
Thanks!
A Paladin won't detect anything if they scan a person who is good, neutral, less than 5 HD (if not an outsider or undead), feeling an actively good intent (it does rarely happen for evil creatures and they might perform method acting charity when they suspect they're being scanned), or subject to magic that hides or misleads alignment detection. Not sure why your Paladin should be suspicious without any particular circumstances.
Undetectable Alignment is the go-to, and it will serve fine against Paladins from 1st to 20th level. Detect Evil only detects... well... evil. It gives no reading for detecting good people or neutral people. It does not reveal the exact alignment of the target. It simply says "evil" or "not evil" (then maybe strength and direction, but only after studying for a few rounds).
Misdirection is also another way to conceal alignment auras. You simply have yourself as the subject, have a tree as the object, and you detect like a tree. Unless the tree you were misdirecting to is evil, you won't detect as evil. If you want to throw a few monkey wrenches in, you could use Misdirection to share your evil aura with things like trees or 1st level commoners passing by. Things could turn comedic or tragic, if your Paladin decides to start hacking away at anything that detects strongly evil.
Rogue has an advanced talent to disguise their alignment when using a Disguise Self SLA.
Vigilante gets two alignments, and can fake being a neutral commoner with another.
Misdirection is a great spell. It offers a save on detection, but makes one thing look like another. (Give a hostage your aura and give yourself a rock's aura.)
Plausible Pseudonym wrote: A Paladin won't detect anything if they scan a person who is good, neutral, less than 5 HD (if not an outsider or undead), feeling an actively good intent (it does rarely happen for evil creatures and they might perform method acting charity when they suspect they're being scanned), or subject to magic that hides or misleads alignment detection. Not sure why your Paladin should be suspicious without any particular circumstances. Yeah..had a momentary lapse of consciousness while working on this encounter. You're exactly right. It should work out ok with the ring of mind shielding. Thanks!
QuidEst wrote: Rogue has an advanced talent to disguise their alignment when using a Disguise Self SLA.
Vigilante gets two alignments, and can fake being a neutral commoner with another.
Misdirection is a great spell. It offers a save on detection, but makes one thing look like another. (Give a hostage your aura and give yourself a rock's aura.)
Misdirection!...WOW!...how did I miss that over the last 4 years (this is my 1st Pathfinder game...used to play D&D) That's awesome! Thanks My Self, I'm probably going to use that somehow!
Plausible Pseudonym wrote: A Paladin won't detect anything if they scan a person who is good, neutral, less than 5 HD (if not an outsider or undead), feeling an actively good intent (it does rarely happen for evil creatures and they might perform method acting charity when they suspect they're being scanned), or subject to magic that hides or misleads alignment detection. Not sure why your Paladin should be suspicious without any particular circumstances. I wasn't aware that scanning a target who was currently engaged in a 'good' intent would not detect of evil. I have to confess..I haven't read the CRB from cover to cover. Is that in there? If so, where?
Thanks!
On second thought you might ping as both good and evil in that case. I'm referring to the intent language at the end of the detect evil spell description.
DMsince1983 wrote: Plausible Pseudonym wrote: A Paladin won't detect anything if they scan a person who is good, neutral, less than 5 HD (if not an outsider or undead), feeling an actively good intent (it does rarely happen for evil creatures and they might perform method acting charity when they suspect they're being scanned), or subject to magic that hides or misleads alignment detection. Not sure why your Paladin should be suspicious without any particular circumstances. I wasn't aware that scanning a target who was currently engaged in a 'good' intent would not detect of evil. I have to confess..I haven't read the CRB from cover to cover. Is that in there? If so, where?
Thanks! Detect Evil says that you detect as evil when you're doing an evil act. Ditto for Detect Good and good acts. It doesn't negate any evil or good auras you already possess.
Also take note of the Damnation feats. Mask of Virtue lets you hide your alignment.
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