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Tjis just in

I'm psyched, who else is psyched?

Sovereign Court

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So Bird Man was real... not a figment of Michael Keaton's imagination?

Genius!


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"Hey....you guys aren't the real avengers"

Feels fun

Spider-Man should feel fun

I have Hope.

and damn Vulture looks nasty

Scarab Sages

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That looks good. Hopefully they won't have too much Stark/Iron Man.

Sovereign Court

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Aberzombie wrote:
That looks good. Hopefully they won't have too much Stark/Iron Man.

Ok, I'll bite. Why would you write this after seeing Downey Jr. in half of the preview?

Liberty's Edge

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Fantastic!

Tom Holland is absolutely perfect as Peter Parker and as Spiderman and I think Michael Keaton is an inspired casting as Vulture.

This is going to me an Amazing movie!!! (see what I did there? :)

From what I understand, Tony Stark plays very much the mentor role in this movie and will most likely be in only a handful of scenes at most. I'm 100% OK with that, though, because the dynamic and chemistry between Peter and Tony is pure movie gold!


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Looks great!

I can't wait!

Tom Holland is definitely the most believable Spider-Man casting yet!


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Double posting Hama. Otherwise, looks fun!


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I'm also hopeful and looking forward to it.

Agreed with above, Spider Man should feel fun. This looks promising. :)

And Micheal Keaton as Vulture?!? This should be pretty good.

Scarab Sages

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
That looks good. Hopefully they won't have too much Stark/Iron Man.
Ok, I'll bite. Why would you write this after seeing Downey Jr. in half of the preview?

While I love the actor and character, I'm of the opinion his screen presence and the popularity of his character could easily overwhelm the main star/character, and make this less of a Spider-Man movie and more a Spider-Man plus movie.

Not that it would be a bad thing, mind you. Captain America: Civil War was thoroughly enjoyable. And Marvel has done very well including multiple heroes in theoretically solo movies. It all depends on the script (which Marvel has once again typically done very well with). And this does seem to be in keeping with the role they seem to have assigned to Stark - he's kind of the glue that holds the Marvel Cinematic Universe together. Six Degrees of Tony Stark?

And maybe this was something missing from the previous, recent Spider-Man movies - the friend/ally who's a fellow hero instead of sidekick or love interest. Someone who has a better understanding of the hero because they're one as well.

So, in short, nothing that would stop me from seeing the movie (and probably eventually owning it), just a little personal preference.


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Before now, I was worried about how many writers were attached to this and the yet-another-reboot bit, but this really looks fun. They seem to be using the best parts of early Peter Parker and Miles Morales. I've done a 180 and now I'm eagerly looking forward to it next summer.

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

So Bird Man was real... not a figment of Michael Keaton's imagination?

Genius!

I'm seeing a pattern here...

Robert Downey Jr has pretty much been taken over by Tony Stark's personality (except much less douchey).

Ryan Reynolds has been completely taken over by Deadpool, to the point I'm not sure a Reynolds exists anymore except as Deadpool's memories.

Michael Keaton fought off a complete takeover by Batman, only to be taken over by Birdman/Toomes' Vulture.

Sovereign Court

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Already looks a thousand times better than amazing spiderman 2.


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That's a bit of an understatement isn't it. :-)


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...

So wait, has Peter Parker stolen Miles Morales best friend, Ganke Lee?

Is that whitewashing?

Honestly curious.


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So Google it.


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captain yesterday wrote:
So Google it.

Yeah, that's always an option. I sort of wanted the opinion of Paizo fans, though.

Sovereign Court

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Delightful wrote:
Honestly curious.

I really hope you are, because some people just like to push that button to see the chaos that ensues. Look up the "Discord Bottle" magic item from Hell's Vengeance book 2...


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Aberzombie wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
That looks good. Hopefully they won't have too much Stark/Iron Man.
Ok, I'll bite. Why would you write this after seeing Downey Jr. in half of the preview?

While I love the actor and character, I'm of the opinion his screen presence and the popularity of his character could easily overwhelm the main star/character, and make this less of a Spider-Man movie and more a Spider-Man plus movie.

Not that it would be a bad thing, mind you. Captain America: Civil War was thoroughly enjoyable. And Marvel has done very well including multiple heroes in theoretically solo movies. It all depends on the script (which Marvel has once again typically done very well with). And this does seem to be in keeping with the role they seem to have assigned to Stark - he's kind of the glue that holds the Marvel Cinematic Universe together. Six Degrees of Tony Stark?

And maybe this was something missing from the previous, recent Spider-Man movies - the friend/ally who's a fellow hero instead of sidekick or love interest. Someone who has a better understanding of the hero because they're one as well.

So, in short, nothing that would stop me from seeing the movie (and probably eventually owning it), just a little personal preference.

Yeah, I like RDJr too, but I'd rather keep him as just-above-a-cameo in this movie. Holland and the rest of the cast will have plenty to do without needing RDJr being RDJr.

Although... I just had a really dark thought about Stark's character arc now...

Spoiler:
RDJr ain't getting any younger, and more importantly for Marvel/Disney, he ain't getting cheaper. Outside of his own movies and both Avengers, Stark has had a significant role in Civil War and now in Homecoming in what looks to be a father-y/mentor type role. Are they setting up Stark to die at the end of Avengers: Infinity War or the untitled sequel/part 2?


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Delightful wrote:

...

So wait, has Peter Parker stolen Miles Morales best friend, Ganke Lee?

Is that whitewashing?

Honestly curious.

That's Ned Leeds, not Ganke Lee (although clearly inspired in part by that character)


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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
That looks good. Hopefully they won't have too much Stark/Iron Man.
Ok, I'll bite. Why would you write this after seeing Downey Jr. in half of the preview?

While I love the actor and character, I'm of the opinion his screen presence and the popularity of his character could easily overwhelm the main star/character, and make this less of a Spider-Man movie and more a Spider-Man plus movie.

Not that it would be a bad thing, mind you. Captain America: Civil War was thoroughly enjoyable. And Marvel has done very well including multiple heroes in theoretically solo movies. It all depends on the script (which Marvel has once again typically done very well with). And this does seem to be in keeping with the role they seem to have assigned to Stark - he's kind of the glue that holds the Marvel Cinematic Universe together. Six Degrees of Tony Stark?

Yeah, I like RDJr too, but I'd rather keep him as just-above-a-cameo in this movie. Holland and the rest of the cast will have plenty to do without needing RDJr being RDJr.

Although... I just had a really dark thought about Stark's character arc now... ** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
As discussed at more length in the Should the MCU kill off characters? thread, I really hope they don't kill Stark off just because they don't want to keep paying RDjr.

Let the character lie fallow for a while and then recast him if tehy want to use Stark again. Killing characters based on actor availability just isn't a good way to go, unless they really do want to reboot the franchise.


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MMC is correct, this is our MCU Ned Leeds with interspersion of Ganke to make the character more relatable to the audience and some comic book fans.

All I care about is the fact Spidey IS funny and awesome.

Now I'd like to see him fight with the Defenders in the small screen.


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MMCJawa wrote:
Delightful wrote:

...

So wait, has Peter Parker stolen Miles Morales best friend, Ganke Lee?

Is that whitewashing?

Honestly curious.

That's Ned Leeds, not Ganke Lee (although clearly inspired in part by that character)

Oh. Thanks for info, MMCJawa.

Dark Archive Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere

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*Vulture crashes trough ceiling window*

Now THAT's how you make an entrance!

Honestly, this feels so right. Homecoming feels modern but timeless at same time. And the cast is great. I'm really excited for the rogues gallery in this- Vulture is one of my favorite villains from Spidey and Shocker is a friggin legend.

Though my heart kinda stopped when Ned dropped that Lego Death Star on the floor. Gah!

Sovereign Court

There was Shocker?


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I'm glad they didn't made the girl MJ or, to a lesser extent, Gwen.


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Hama,

There's no confirmation of that but there's rumor about Shocker and Vulture both working together as a crew with the Tinkerer being the inventing/gadget guy for them.

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Hama wrote:
There was Shocker?

You can see him in the international trailer. He is (rumored to) played by Bokem Woodbine, and you can see him fletching his vibro-gauntlets before he punches a bus at Spidey.

Also, here's article about it.


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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:

So Bird Man was real... not a figment of Michael Keaton's imagination?

Genius!

I literally said almost the exact same thing.


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Vid,

I think that was what many people said.

Btw thanks Ros for posting that link!


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Vid,

I think that was what many people said.

Btw thanks Ros for posting that link!

Just can't let me enjoy my delusion that i'm original in some way :P

Edit: It lost a word somewhere.


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Vid,

No one is original, not even original famous pizza.

Dark Archive Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere

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So, I just saw Spider-Man: Homecoming.

It is pretty darn good. Not at the level of this year's best superhero movies, but a good MCU superhero movie. Tom Holland is great as Spidey still, and is really good at the whole underdog hero-thing. Michael Keaton as the Vulture is one of the best MCU villains so far, and I say this with high praise. He is simply amazing and the character is written very well. And the school stuff never seemed tacked on or eating time from something else- they made the school almost a character of it's own with lots of personal characters and nice, upbeat tone. If I had to rank this somewhere in those all Spider-Man movies, this would be my third favorite, after Raimi's first two.

Liberty's Edge

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So, what are the post credit scenes? Spoiler tags please

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SPOILERS ABOUT MIDDLE-AND POST CREDIT SCENES

Spoiler:
First one in the middle is about Toomes meeting Mac Gargan in jail and Gargan asking Toomes about Spidey's secret identity. The last is jokey one, one of those Captain America PSA-videos about virtue of patience. Getting kinda meta.


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Leaving in about 10 min to catch a 10 PM showing....

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

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Really? At the end, when he's

Spoiler:
hanging onto the airplane, and keeps losing his grip and slipping

I was on the edge of my seat.

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Yeah, and

Spoiler:
even if I didn't connect as much emotionally with the scene where the building falled on him, it felt like life-threatening danger since Holland did amazing job with Peter's sheer panic over the situation.

Liberty's Edge

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We are going to see this tomorrow afternoon - man I'm excited!!


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I loved the movie. It is the best Spider-Man movie hands down.


I liked it!

Silver Crusade

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The symphonic take on the 60's Spider-Man theme song, and the Ramones music choices in the film are inspired.


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Gonna pile on and say that I thoroughly enjoyed this one. It's in all ways superior than the last Spidey series of movies. Tom Holland was great. Michael Keaton was one of the most frightening AND sympathetic bad guys the MCU has offered.

The Theme Song at the beginning was boss.

The humor throughout the film was excellent (Hannibal Burress/Zendaya scene made me crack up)

Holland and Keaton were awesome, but the supporting cast was just as good. Seriously, Zendaya was great, Woodbine was great, the kid that played the friend (Chair Guy!) was great.

Ok, I'm just gushing now.


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to chime in on the chorus, Homecoming is great! I already have seen it twice. Tom Holland is easily the best Spiderman, finally melding Spiderman's snarkiness and humor to Peter Parker's nerdiness and awkwardness. Garfield did a good job on the former and Maguire did an okay job on the latter, but neither did a great job of doing both.

Also the Vulture has to be one of the single best MCU villains done so far. He actually manages to be a complex character that does really bad things but for understandable reasons. Too many of the MCU villains fall into one dimensional "evil for evil" sake (Ultron, Yellow Jacket, Iron Monger) or just are not given enough time to have an impression (Zemo). Keaton was such a great choice.

Now we just have to hope that Sony doesn't find a way to screw everything up again...


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MMC,

I'm still waiting to figure out when we'll get a great Thor villain, but Cate Blanchet gives me hope.


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Saw it today, and very much enjoyed it. My few nitpicks were super tiny. For example:

In my experience, Betty Brant is not a kid at Peter's school, she's JJJ's secretary.

Spoiler:
MJ as a no-friends loner whose name isn't Mary Jane? Not sure about that one. Otherwise, I had no issues with their casting choice there.

Shadow Lodge

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It was a really good movie. It was nice to see a marvel movie that had a villain done well, both as a character and an actual threat. If you can make a good villain out of the vulture you're doing something right.

I was worried this was going to be an ironman movie, it wasn't. He was used well.

The comedic timing is great. Some of the more realistic aspects of a kid crime fighter or actually being a supervillian come up to hillarious effect.

I did love the movie but something that irked me a bit...

not really spoilery spoiler:

One thing that annoyed me was that spiderman didn't screw the pooch. He didn't DO something wrong, something WENT wrong and those aren't the same thing. If anything he screwed up more on the plane fight and then got lucky as opposed to not messing anything up in the ferry fight and then getting very unlucky: he did the right thing It still went boom on him.


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My Minor Nitpicks + Reply to BNW:

If I had any nitpicks on the movie, it was the leaning just a LITTLE too hard on the MCU connections. I am pretty sure GotG, Antman, and Dr. Strange are the only single MCU movies that didn't referenced in some manner. Some felt organic (The Vulture's scavenging), others not so (a school lecture on the Sokovia Accords).

Also I am not sure I am that big a fan of Spidermans suite being that teched out. I think it makes sense that his suite is Stark Tech (because I have no clue how a teenager could make even the regular outfit and make it functional), but giving it drones and AI seemed a bit much

as for "screwing the pooch", I think Tony was right. Spiderman picked a fight on a ferry crowded with potential casualties, who because of being on a boat don't even have the capability to run away.

Granted the Plane could have gone very very bad, but that at least didn't end up being a situation where Iron Man had to bail him out.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:

MMC,

I'm still waiting to figure out when we'll get a great Thor villain, but Cate Blanchet gives me hope.

I think they are getting better, and I too am hopeful about Hela. But Thor already has a pretty awesome villain in Loki!

I think Mordo could be set up to be a pretty great antagonist for the next Dr. Strange, and I actually liked Zemo...he just wasn't in it enough to stand out.


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For those who have seen it... does the movie setup (or leave the door open) for Donald Glover's character to possibly return in the sequel?

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