Does the Chaos Beast's Corporeal Instability power affect summoned creatures (in this case, it's specifically a small Fire Elemental)? If so, will they still fight for and not against the summoner? Also, bit of a weird question, but if the summoned creature is not in sight, does the summoner have any idea what has happened?
Oh, and when I say 'summoned', I mean by using Summon Monster. Sorry if these are stupid questions, I'm still quite new to Pathfinder.
LucyG92 wrote: Does the Chaos Beast's Corporeal Instability power affect summoned creatures (in this case, it's specifically a small Fire Elemental)? Yes.
Quote: If so, will they still fight for and not against the summoner? Corporeal instability doesn't affect the allegiances of any creature, and thus doesn't affect the allegiances of summoned creatures.
Quote: Also, bit of a weird question, but if the summoned creature is not in sight, does the summoner have any idea what has happened? Nope.
Milo v3 wrote:
Quote: If so, will they still fight for and not against the summoner? Corporeal instability doesn't affect the allegiances of any creature, and thus doesn't affect the allegiances of summoned creatures.
In the Carrion Hill module it says affected creatures attack blindly, though.
LucyG92 wrote: In the Carrion Hill module it says affected creatures attack blindly, though. Then that module is an exception that does not reflect the default operation of the curse.
A Chaos beast's Corporeal Instability has always rendered the target blind and unable to distinguish friend from foe. This will override a summoned creature's loyalty to a caster. It will just flail blindly regardless of who is around.
In 3.5 the Chaos beast specifically had the line, 'Searing pain courses along the nerves, so strong that the victim cannot act coherently. The victim cannot cast spells or use magic items, and it attacks blindly, unable to distinguish friend from foe (-4 penalty on attack rolls and a 50% miss chance, regardless of the attack roll).'
The line about searing pain is deleted, which seems like a careless thing to do, but it was likely because the line about being unable to distinguish friend from foe was kept and indicates they can't tell targets apart any longer. So, a creature under this curse will just flail into squares where it thinks there's a target of any kind. If it is blobbing around and bumps into someone, or someone says something nearby or someone attacks it, it will attack where it thinks a target is (at -4 to attack with a 50% chance to flat out miss.) I would say that while blindsight and blind-fighting might mitigate or affect the 50% miss chance (the -4 seems to stand alone), the inability to distinguish enemies and allies applies even against blind creatures or creatures that have senses other than sight. They are in agony, being twisted and mangled inside, and losing their minds.
Fire Elemental wrote: Features on a fire elemental's body are made by darker bits of flame or patches of semi-stable smoke, ash, and cinders. Although there is no rule that I can state says it, I find it hard to believe that a Fire Elemental has a stable body, that this ability would effect.
Amorphous (Ex) wrote: The creature's body is malleable and shapeless. It is immune to precision damage (like sneak attacks) and critical hits. Elemental Subtype wrote: Not subject to critical hits or flanking. Does not take additional damage from precision-based attacks, such as sneak attack. The wording is similar, but that is not enough.
Corporeal Instability wrote: Unless the victim manages to control the effect (see below), its shape constantly melts, flows, writhes, and boils. This is what a Fire Elemental looks like to me anyway.
Dr Styx wrote:
Although there is no rule that I can state says it, I find it hard to believe that a Fire Elemental has a stable body, that this ability would effect.
I did consider that, although the bestiary doesn't say a fire elemental can change its form. :/
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