Quick question: Devil subdomain [evil][law]
Only lawful evil can select it? Thanks.
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Pretty much, yes.
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There's a Lawful Version of the subdomain and an Evil version of it.
Devil (Law) will still have the other domain power and spells of the Law domain, while Devil (Evil) will have the other domain power and spells of the Evil domain.
You can be Lawful Evil (Take either one), Lawful Neutral (Take Law), or Neutral Evil (Take Evil).
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This all sounds very reasonable, but can someone point out the rule that prevents a CE cleric from taking the Devil subdomain of Evil? Or a LG cleric taking it off of Law? Assuming that the deity or philosophy domain list contained it, which admittedly would be odd.
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This all sounds very reasonable, but can someone point out the rule that prevents a CE cleric from taking the Devil subdomain of Evil? Or a LG cleric taking it off of Law? Assuming that the deity or philosophy domain list contained it, which admittedly would be odd.
Probably no rule against it if you can find a LN or NE god that offers it. The trouble, as you alluded to, is finding that god. I wouldn't hold my breathe for such a deity being published anytime soon.
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Calistria (chaotic neutral, has antipaladins) offers the chaos-flavor of the Azata (Chaos, Good) domain, as far as I can tell.
This is especially significant since she *only* grants access to Azata (Chaos), *not* to Azata (good).
I still wouldn't allow an chaotic evil worshipper of her access to it, unless they could come up with a truly awesome explanation.
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So a LG cleric of Erastil could get the Devil subdomain? Would be weird.This all sounds very reasonable, but can someone point out the rule that prevents a CE cleric from taking the Devil subdomain of Evil? Or a LG cleric taking it off of Law? Assuming that the deity or philosophy domain list contained it, which admittedly would be odd.Probably no rule against it if you can find a LN or NE god that offers it. The trouble, as you alluded to, is finding that god. I wouldn't hold my breathe for such a deity being published anytime soon.
Erastil don't offer that subdomain. Erastil subdomains are: "Archon, Family, Feather, Fur, Growth, Home" (Inner sea Gods, p. 317).
As that is a setting book it isn't in the PRD, not in d20PFSRD. If you don't have the book you can find it in the Archives of Nethys.EDIT: LOL, I am replying to a post that was visible for maybe 2 minutes and then was deleted. But I think the question and answer have some interest, so it stay.
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Page 91 of the APG sets out the subdomains of Golarions deities. A quick glance indicates that subdomains should be assigned to deities as appropriate. A deity does not automatically grant all sub-domains available to it's core domains. It grants those appropriate to it's alignment and cause.
While not explicitly spelt out I would assign (number of domains+1 or maybe +2) to each deity if I was creating a pantheon.
To the OP: If using a homebrew pantheon a chaotic evil or lawful good deity should not offer the devil subdomain as an option. But I can see scope for a NE or LN deity granting it.
So a LG cleric of Erastil could get the Devil subdomain? Would be weird.This all sounds very reasonable, but can someone point out the rule that prevents a CE cleric from taking the Devil subdomain of Evil? Or a LG cleric taking it off of Law? Assuming that the deity or philosophy domain list contained it, which admittedly would be odd.Probably no rule against it if you can find a LN or NE god that offers it. The trouble, as you alluded to, is finding that god. I wouldn't hold my breathe for such a deity being published anytime soon.Erastil don't offer that subdomain. Erastil subdomains are: "Archon, Family, Feather, Fur, Growth, Home" (Inner sea Gods, p. 317).
As that is a setting book it isn't in the PRD, not in d20PFSRD. If you don't have the book you can find it in the Archives of Nethys.EDIT: LOL, I am replying to a post that was visible for maybe 2 minutes and then was deleted. But I think the question and answer have some interest, so it stay.
Yes, but thanks! It does have some interest. I'm kinda new to this so I didn't know the gods have specific subdomains too... I found it right after I posted.
Page 91 of the APG sets out the subdomains of Golarions deities. A quick glance indicates that subdomains should be assigned to deities as appropriate. A deity does not automatically grant all sub-domains available to it's core domains. It grants those appropriate to it's alignment and cause.
While not explicitly spelt out I would assign (number of domains+1 or maybe +2) to each deity if I was creating a pantheon.
To the OP: If using a homebrew pantheon a chaotic evil or lawful good deity should not offer the devil subdomain as an option. But I can see scope for a NE or LN deity granting it.
I was asking in the case that the clerics alignment is not that of his god. Asmodeus gives Devil[evil][law], my cleric is LN, I read that alignment domains (I assume subdomains too) should match the clerics alignment. I was wondering if it should match BOTH. From what Dominus says, its not needed :)
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I was asking in the case that the clerics alignment is not that of his god. Asmodeus gives Devil[evil][law], my cleric is LN, I read that alignment domains (I assume subdomains too) should match the clerics alignment. I was wondering if it should match BOTH. From what Dominus says, its not needed :)Page 91 of the APG sets out the subdomains of Golarions deities. A quick glance indicates that subdomains should be assigned to deities as appropriate. A deity does not automatically grant all sub-domains available to it's core domains. It grants those appropriate to it's alignment and cause.
While not explicitly spelt out I would assign (number of domains+1 or maybe +2) to each deity if I was creating a pantheon.
To the OP: If using a homebrew pantheon a chaotic evil or lawful good deity should not offer the devil subdomain as an option. But I can see scope for a NE or LN deity granting it.
They should match only the one you choose, as Dominus explained.