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For myself, I'm a Lich of simple, classic tastes. I prefer the gamebreaking, conceptual shenanigans that fall strongly on the side of ridiculous. They're also the kind of thing that no sane player would bring to the table. I'm thinking of the awakened hummingbird deathstar currently.
Oh, and ridiculous template stacking or weird interactions between corner case monsters and templates or class abilities.
Did you know plants can be vampires? Neither did my players... until it was too late.
I thought I was clever making a Leshy Vampire Hunter gestalt with Herbalist Alchemist... little did I know. Lol.
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I thought I was clever making a Leshy Vampire Hunter gestalt with Herbalist Alchemist... little did I know. Lol.For myself, I'm a Lich of simple, classic tastes. I prefer the gamebreaking, conceptual shenanigans that fall strongly on the side of ridiculous. They're also the kind of thing that no sane player would bring to the table. I'm thinking of the awakened hummingbird deathstar currently.
Oh, and ridiculous template stacking or weird interactions between corner case monsters and templates or class abilities.
Did you know plants can be vampires? Neither did my players... until it was too late.
I have bad news.
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Now I now, and knowing is half the battle... violence is the other half.
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I thought red and blue lasers were a sizeable percentage?
I thought I was clever making a Leshy Vampire Hunter gestalt with Herbalist Alchemist... little did I know. Lol.For myself, I'm a Lich of simple, classic tastes. I prefer the gamebreaking, conceptual shenanigans that fall strongly on the side of ridiculous. They're also the kind of thing that no sane player would bring to the table. I'm thinking of the awakened hummingbird deathstar currently.
Oh, and ridiculous template stacking or weird interactions between corner case monsters and templates or class abilities.
Did you know plants can be vampires? Neither did my players... until it was too late.
I have bad news.
that's pretty interesting given the lore and the biology of plants. I know the undead part is going to trump all that, but needing sunlight and water, which are now deadly to them as vamps is kind of neat. Seems like you can make an alternate lore for all vampires being plant-based going off that.
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that's pretty interesting given the lore and the biology of plants. I know the undead part is going to trump all that, but needing sunlight and water, which are now deadly to them as vamps is kind of neat. Seems like you can make an alternate lore for all vampires being plant-based going off that.I thought I was clever making a Leshy Vampire Hunter gestalt with Herbalist Alchemist... little did I know. Lol.For myself, I'm a Lich of simple, classic tastes. I prefer the gamebreaking, conceptual shenanigans that fall strongly on the side of ridiculous. They're also the kind of thing that no sane player would bring to the table. I'm thinking of the awakened hummingbird deathstar currently.
Oh, and ridiculous template stacking or weird interactions between corner case monsters and templates or class abilities.
Did you know plants can be vampires? Neither did my players... until it was too late.
I have bad news.
It's actually part of the original folklore, kinda.
I submit, using the overwatch style feats with kinetic blast. Without the restriction to a weapon, wielding, or any of the other typical restrictions on ranged feats, overwatch vortex lets you ready 4 blasts as a full round action.
Similar exploit with master sniper.
Gorum's Swordmanship + Vital Strike + Scout's Charge + Bleeding Attack + Rhino Charge
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Yeah, but Wizards are very powerful. And this would really add some teeth to Arcane Tricksters. Also, it only costs 1 level in Wizard to obtain this ability, so you can be a powerful archer with a powerful trick, and you can get it fast. Getting it fast is a big deal. This is just the sort of tactical trick a non-PFS GM would manipulate encounters to jam. The moment you start doing this, all of a sudden, for reasons no one can explain, every creature you encounter has Scent and Greater Blind Fighting.
I'm envisioning a Half Elven or Half Orc Archer with an Orc Hornbow that starts as a Fighter to get Precise Shot, then dips into Ranger to use a Wand of Gravity Bow, and then takes levels in Wizard to specialize in the Smoke Subschool of Fire, then multiclasses between Arcane Trickster, Arcane Archer, Living Monolith, and Eldritch Knight. I don't know how it will work, but I think it will be pretty scary.
Gravity bow is already a wizard spell. No need to dip Ranger to be able to use wands
False Focus and Alchemical Power Components
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For myself, I'm a Lich of simple, classic tastes. I prefer the gamebreaking, conceptual shenanigans that fall strongly on the side of ridiculous. They're also the kind of thing that no sane player would bring to the table. I'm thinking of the awakened hummingbird deathstar currently.
Oh, and ridiculous template stacking or weird interactions between corner case monsters and templates or class abilities.
Did you know plants can be vampires? Neither did my players... until it was too late.
My favorite is the "rock salt" Earth Elementals I came up with. Elementals are living creatures, after all, and a vampire can't be hit by sunlight very easily underground...
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Taking one level in Eldritch Scrapper Sorcerer instead of Iron Will, because free Martial Flexibility.
On those same lines... Eldritch Scrapper Sorcerer (Envenomed Bloodline) gestalt with Snakebite Striker Brawler is pretty awesome. Eldritch Scrapper has Martial Flexibility, and the Snakebite Striker gave it up for other fun stuff. One of the Bloodline Feats available is Skill Focus Bluff, which goes with all the feint shenanigans the Snakebite Striker can do. You can also actually have a snake's bite as a Bloodline Power, if you want it to match the whole Snakebite Striker thing.
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Poisoner's Gloves tricks...
Toxic Spell = Spell + Poison
Infuse Poison = Poison + Spell
If you use an Infused Poison for a Toxic Spell:
Spell + Poison + Spell
If you use a Toxic Spell in an Infused Poison:
Poison + Spell + Poison
If you make an Infused Poison with a Toxic Spell, then use it to cast a different Toxic Spell:
Spell + Poison + Spell + Poison
"A greater transformative weapon becomes any other weapon the wielder desires when a command word is spoken."
OR
"A shadowcraft weapon can assume the form of any masterwork weapon that shares its type and handedness.""Any" doesn't sound very limiting. What written is preventing you from having it assume the form of a modern firearm like the Madsen light machine gun or technological heavy weaponry like the plasmathrower or atom gun?
You may encounter problems with charging technological weapons since shadowcraft only produces its own ammunition, but an atom gun has its own reactor.
Assuming your character is aware of these weapons, and they share the hardness, and you have a shadowcraft weapon, why not?
I suppose you could get into trouble with the greater transformative weapon, but that's endgame shenanigans anyway. And again, to turn it into an atom gun you have to be aware of what an atom gun is or that weapons along those lines exist in the first place.
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White Haired Witch + Great Cleave.
You see, there is no stated limit as to how many people a Witch can Grapple in her White Hair, and of course when you are grappled in her white hair, she isn't; only you are.
In a gestalt mythic game I'm in right now, I spent one session playing Harry Beardmeister. White-haired witch/mirror witch-fighter, with great cleave, goblin cleaver/orc hewer/giant (whatever it's called), with smash from the air, mythic combat reflexes, always a chance, meat shield, and master grappler. I just flew into the thick of battle and tossed people around. Due to the story we were playing, it was perfectly understandable for my regular character to dip out and Harry to pop in for a cameo.
It was so much fun to hit nearly everyone on the battlefield and keep a hold on the last guy attacked, then use him to block an enemy cleric who tried to hit me with an inflict spell.
Why do people keep saying dip 3 levels of Bard? Just be a Flame Dancer Bard at that point. There's a lot more to that archetype than that one stupid song. Plus, who "dips" three levels of Bard for 8rnds of Performance? A wet fart blows your cover away.
Song of Fiery Gaze only allows people to see through smoke, not breath it... so you still cannot use it indoors. It has a range of 30', which the enemy is not obligated to enter that radius. Sure, I suppose it can be situationally useful, but I don't see it worth the investment unless you actually want to be a Flame Dancer Bard...
It's not a bad archetype in and of itself, but the Song of Fiery Gaze is not really something to abuse. Flame Dancer stacks with Flamesinger... which gets Fire Music, and that IS something you can work some shenanigans around.
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found a nice thing i think:
level 2 Ashiftah witch can use a vanish effect (and 5 foot if wanted) as move action after using a hex, ANY HEX, the flight hex i mentioned before give an at will feather-fall which is immediate action, leave you with using standard to attack\cast\hex >featherfall on self as immediate action > vanish and 5 foot. this allow do so many things beside the obvious invisibility each turn(a 2 level dip then go for sniper rogues?)
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there are also the racial heritage feat shenanigans.
among them taking specific giants as heritage open up some impressive things (as giants are humanoids and thus allowed to be used with this feat.)
racial heritage (frost giant) - open up born of frost - +1d6 cold damage with unarmed\natural attacks, and 1 cold damage to attackers using natural weapons.
racial heritage (stone giant) - open up a few feats among them is stone soul which can be taken up to 3 times - +1 nat ac and 1/day stoneskin sla (not sure if taking more then once also increase the ac but the uses per day of the sla increase.)
racial heritage (storm giant) - open up storm soul - imunity to electricity (can be gained as early as level 1!!) and the follower feat - storm warrior - +1d6 electricity damage with metal melee weapons. (insert 'darker then black' theme song here)
also racial heritage(ogre) - open up ogre feats among them is the Vestigial Head which can be taken up to two times for 25%/50% automatic successes in any hostile will save (with a minor sickness effect instead)
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)
the feat is also in pathfinder but you need to be a loremaster prestige class and have the 'secret' class ability first to gain it.
'Genesis' is not a spell with a level it's an occult ritual and non of those have a spell level so you can't expand your own spell slots\prepared spells to cast with the above feat. they also doesn't use the "cast spell" rules but "cast ritual".although the feat mentioned does allow some nice option all by itself
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)the feat is also in pathfinder but you need to be a loremaster prestige class and have the 'secret' class ability first to gain it.
'Genesis' is not a spell with a level it's an occult ritual and non of those have a spell level so you can't expand your own spell slots\prepared spells to cast with the above feat. they also doesn't use the "cast spell" rules but "cast ritual".although the feat mentioned does allow some nice option all by itself
1. Genesis is the 3.5 thing not secret of magical discipline
2. Genesis is a spell not a ritualBoth of which you would have seen if you had at least opened the links before replying.
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)the feat is also in pathfinder but you need to be a loremaster prestige class and have the 'secret' class ability first to gain it.
'Genesis' is not a spell with a level it's an occult ritual and non of those have a spell level so you can't expand your own spell slots\prepared spells to cast with the above feat. they also doesn't use the "cast spell" rules but "cast ritual".although the feat mentioned does allow some nice option all by itself
1. Genesis is the 3.5 thing not secret of magical discipline
2. Genesis is a spell not a ritualBoth of which you would have seen if you had at least opened the links before replying.
i have opened the link. and the genesis (using your link) has a title saying "occult rituals" right above it. or have you never looked?
same for the feat you linked (again, using your link here),having the loremasted ability requirement ( linked in the feat itself) if you bothered looking at it.after seeing the title i went and looked at the occult rituals and linked that as well.
so before accusing some1 of not looking do so yourself!
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)the feat is also in pathfinder but you need to be a loremaster prestige class and have the 'secret' class ability first to gain it.
'Genesis' is not a spell with a level it's an occult ritual and non of those have a spell level so you can't expand your own spell slots\prepared spells to cast with the above feat. they also doesn't use the "cast spell" rules but "cast ritual".although the feat mentioned does allow some nice option all by itself
1. Genesis is the 3.5 thing not secret of magical discipline
2. Genesis is a spell not a ritualBoth of which you would have seen if you had at least opened the links before replying.
i have opened the link. and the genesis (using your link) has a title saying "occult rituals" right above it. or have you never looked?
same for the feat you linked (again, using your link here),having the loremasted ability requirement ( linked in the feat itself) if you bothered looking at it.after seeing the title i went and looked at the occult rituals and linked that as well.
so before accusing some1 of...
1. This is the aonprd general spells page. Notice how it says "occult rituals" in exactly the same place.
2.You said "the feat is also in pathfinder" which implied that you thought the 3.5 thing was the feat instead of the spell. I corrected you.
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)Ah, If we are blending different d20 systems into Pathfinder, how's'about we combine the 3.0 Improved Sunder with the 3.5 Combat Brute, Deadly Concussion, Ancestral Relic, and Greater Sunder?
You use Ancestral Relic to magic-up your Adamantine Earthbreaker into a Maul of the Titans that does triple damage vs, inanimate objects. The 3.0 Improved Sunder gives you double damage vs. weapons, so quadruple damage. Greater Sunder makes the residual Damage from destroying someone's weapon, shield, or armor go into your opponent. Deadly Concussion makes it so when you destroy someone's Armor or Shield, the opponent takes the same damage. Combat Brute gives you a Free Action Attack when you break someone's weapon or shield.
Ah but this is not any 3.5e spell. This is a paizo published spell that is on aonprd and as such while isn't pathfinder by default is much more likely to be allowed by gms who give free pass to anything on aonprd.
Does Sacred Geometry count?
Assuming your gm lets you use paizo 3.5 stuff(that is on aonprd) you can use secret of magical discipline
which let's you cast any spell to cast Genesis a spell which
1. Creates a demiplane with instantaneous duration (not even permanent)
2. Has an exp cost (which is not actually useful but interesting in pathfinder)the feat is also in pathfinder but you need to be a loremaster prestige class and have the 'secret' class ability first to gain it.
'Genesis' is not a spell with a level it's an occult ritual and non of those have a spell level so you can't expand your own spell slots\prepared spells to cast with the above feat. they also doesn't use the "cast spell" rules but "cast ritual".although the feat mentioned does allow some nice option all by itself
1. Genesis is the 3.5 thing not secret of magical discipline
2. Genesis is a spell not a ritualBoth of which you would have seen if you had at least opened the links before replying.
i have opened the link. and the genesis (using your link) has a title saying "occult rituals" right above it. or have you never looked?
same for the feat you linked (again, using your link here),having the loremasted ability requirement ( linked in the feat itself) if you bothered looking at it.after seeing the title i went and looked at the occult rituals and linked that as well.
so
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1. This is the aonprd general spells page. Notice how it says "occult rituals" in exactly the same place.2.You said "the feat is also in pathfinder" which implied that you thought the 3.5 thing was the feat instead of the spell. I corrected you.
no. its the page of spells\rituals so..yea..read everything before posting i only used your own links
and you assumed wrong. i never mixed the two.
no. its the page of spells\rituals so..yea..read everything before posting i only used your own links
and you assumed wrong. i never mixed the two.
Fireball also says Occult Rituals in the exact same place. Does that mean it's a ritual? No. Genesis is a spell.
If you're not convinced let's look at the spell text:
You create an ... Demiplanes created by this spell are very ... The spell cannot create life ... You can cast this spell again to ...
See the bolded parts? See how they say spell?
Also also, genesis is 3.5e. 3.5e doesn't have occult rituals.
TheKillerCorgi is right, these things like "Occult Rituals" aren't headers for what is to follow, but links to subpages of spells. Genesis is a spell, not an occult ritual.
The URL says as much as well:
Genesis (a spell):
aonprd.com/SpellDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Genesis
Invariability (an occult ritual):
aonprd.com/OccultRituals.aspx?ItemName=Invariability
Another example:
Magical Lineage is a Trait, not a Drawback. The "Drawback" above just is a link to the list of drawbacks, not the header of the page.