Vigilante Consumed Warlock Build.


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Ok so here is the deal, I loved 3.5 warlock and I want to try the equivalent in pathfinder, but as we all know Kinetecist is pretty much unplayable.

However Warlock Vigilante looks awesome, but I do not care for the dual identity and social talents. Consumed takes care of all of that, but here is the issue.

I can not find info on the specifics of consumed archtype, so help a brother out.

Human, stats are 10 12 14 14 16 18

Going to take mystic accuracy and genius vigilante at level 1.

Past that I got no info to go on.


First of all, Kineticist is very playable. Bugs me when people discard it out of hand.

Consumed Vigilante is probably third-party. I can't find Mystic Accuracy or Genius Vigilante anywhere, so I have no idea what you're actually building.


The Kineticist is so so much better than the Warlock Vigilante.

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CupcakeNautilus wrote:
The Kineticist is so so much better than the Warlock Vigilante.

I wouldn't go quite that far. Warlock Vigilante is better at social stuff and a 6-level caster from the best spell list in the game.

Kineticist is much better as a straight damage dealer, however. A focused Warlock can probably do on-par damage to turn-in turn-out touch-attack Kineticist damage if using Rapid Shot, TWF, and Arcane Striker, but the Kineticist can spike much higher at need and/or if going with Physical Blasts (which will probably still hit, given the one attack per round), and (unlike Warlock) low amounts of Energy Resistance don't screw you completely.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
CupcakeNautilus wrote:
The Kineticist is so so much better than the Warlock Vigilante.

I wouldn't go quite that far. Warlock Vigilante is better at social stuff and a 6-level caster from the best spell list in the game.

Kineticist is much better as a straight damage dealer, however. A focused Warlock can probably do on-par damage to turn-in turn-out touch-attack Kineticist damage if using Rapid Shot, TWF, and Arcane Striker, but the Kineticist can spike much higher at need and/or if going with Physical Blasts (which will probably still hit, given the one attack per round), and (unlike Warlock) low amounts of Energy Resistance don't screw you completely.

If third-party content is allowed like the ones I listed in the original post then the Warlock damage goes up considerably the first one allows you to cast off intelligence as well as basing most charisma talents on int instead and the second lets you add intelligence to the damage of your bolts and it allows them to be affected by feats like deadly aim and piranha strike. In the same book there is also a vigilante talent that gives you point-blank shot and precise shot that only applies to your bolts and there is another talent that gives you the two weapon fighting tree that progresses as you level


Whisperknives wrote:
...but as we all know Kinetecist is pretty much unplayable...

Opinion: discarded. I'm currently playing an unoptimized Kineticist in a Legacy of Fire campaign and the only person in our party capable of matching or exceeding my damage output or utility is the party Wizard, and that's only when he blows everything he has for the day.

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QuidEst wrote:

First of all, Kineticist is very playable. Bugs me when people discard it out of hand.

Consumed Vigilante is probably third-party. I can't find Mystic Accuracy or Genius Vigilante anywhere, so I have no idea what you're actually building.

Yeah, I think this all probably belongs in the 3p section since consumed vigilante, mystic accuracy, and genius vigilante are all from the upcoming Legendary Villains: Vigilantes playtest that was runn a while back. And the base kineticist is...ok, but can be brought up to a more viable level with certain other content.

If you want, PM me and I'll give you the specifics of Consumed (Legendary Villains: Vigilantes comes out sometime next week though), but if you're interested in the class, I think there's a vigilante warlock guide written that incorporates 3p, let me go find it.

Warlock Vigilante guide

Let me know if you need any help specifically.

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