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The only thing I didn't like a lot is that the explanation for why Laura has claws on her feet seemed a bit forced to me. Not that it couldn't have some logic, but that piece of dialogue seemed to me like it was put there only to provide an explanation for it.
It's not a big issue overall anyway.

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Finally saw the movie. Loved it. Every second of it. My girlfriend burst into tears at the end.


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It was a very good ending.

There were a number of things I didn't like about the movie.

And I missed at least one thing: when Logan woke up in Eden after the kids had left, there was a note. I couldn't read it.

Dumb explanation for Lara to have claws on her feet; cool that she had them, though.

X-24 is a successor project to X-23 and the other kids, yet he's fully mature...how?

X-24 is "something without a soul", but by his appearance, might as well be a clone of Wolverine. Do clones not have souls? And again, how do you mature them so quickly?

It bugged me that almost all the mutant kids were non-entities. I think only one or two of them spoke the entire time in Eden.

Once the bad guys found the kids on the way to the border, why was any effort made to capture them? The kids were supposed to be killed anyway. Just shoot them down, then bag the bodies and harvest useful DNA the same way they did with Caliban.

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@damon griffin yeah and why exactly did crossing the border mean safety for the mutant kids? Basically, it was a character flick that needed an Alamo event and the small stuff doesn't really ruin the big stuff like it usually does.


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Saw it tonight. It was good...probably right up there with Deadpool of the Fox's X-Movies.

I could not stick around...was there any post credit scenes?


John Kretzer wrote:

Saw it tonight. It was good...probably right up there with Deadpool of the Fox's X-Movies.

I could not stick around...was there any post credit scenes?

No, the Deadpool pre Logan scene was it. Made sense I think no post movie scenes considering the movie itself.


I have to give props really to any movie ballsy enough to shoot a spear gun through a preteen.


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Storyteller Shadow wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:

Saw it tonight. It was good...probably right up there with Deadpool of the Fox's X-Movies.

I could not stick around...was there any post credit scenes?

No, the Deadpool pre Logan scene was it. Made sense I think no post movie scenes considering the movie itself.

Yeah I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie...due to stupid traffic at the mall...and given the movie I did not think there would have been, but you never know.

I also thought I heard a rumor that Fox is going to reboot the X universe movies...anybody else hear that?


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I kind of just want them to loss the license and see what marvel can do with the x-men that and so we can start using the term mutant in marvel again.

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Damon Griffin wrote:

It was a very good ending.

There were a number of things I didn't like about the movie.

And I missed at least one thing: when Logan woke up in Eden after the kids had left, there was a note. I couldn't read it.

Dumb explanation for Lara to have claws on her feet; cool that she had them, though.

X-24 is a successor project to X-23 and the other kids, yet he's fully mature...how?

X-24 is "something without a soul", but by his appearance, might as well be a clone of Wolverine. Do clones not have souls? And again, how do you mature them so quickly?

It bugged me that almost all the mutant kids were non-entities. I think only one or two of them spoke the entire time in Eden.

Once the bad guys found the kids on the way to the border, why was any effort made to capture them? The kids were supposed to be killed anyway. Just shoot them down, then bag the bodies and harvest useful DNA the same way they did with Caliban.

The note said (IIRC) "Not all at once", referring to the bottle of green medicine. Of course, he immediately ignores that advice.

As to X-24, it looked like they built him piecemeal. In the cell phone video, they pan across the tanks where they're growing the various parts of him.

I'm wondering if maybe they had tissue samples of Wolverine they were able to coax into growing into limbs and whatnot, which they they stitched together? Sort of using his own healing factor to clone him, rather than clone him the traditional way (which is how they made Laura)?


In the comics Laura is a clone that was made female because they had to replace an unstable Y cromosom for a X one.

But in the movie I'm not sure that she is a clone. It seems to me that she was subject to genetic engineering to insert Wolverine's DNA into an embryo or something like that.

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Damon Griffin wrote:
It bugged me that almost all the mutant kids were non-entities. I think only one or two of them spoke the entire time in Eden.

While I would like to have seen more of them (or see more of them in a later movie...), I liked that some of the kids showed some signs of the 'donors' they may have been cloned / engineered from. Supposedly the file on Rictor stated that Avalanche was his donor, and the girl who breathed frost seems like an Iceman riff, while the heavyset black boy who generated electricity might have had a little Storm in him. (I'd have to see it again to see if the girl who seemed to telekinetically stab some dude with 10,000 pine needles was a redhead...)

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The file for the electric boy had Pippins light bulb character from Origins as the donor name when Logan was looking at the files.


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@damon griffin yeah and why exactly did crossing the border mean safety for the mutant kids? Basically, it was a character flick that needed an Alamo event and the small stuff doesn't really ruin the big stuff like it usually does.

When Logan wakes up and Rictor is on the radio, you hear a female voice acknowledge the rendezvous and mention asylum. I imagine the Candian government is harboring them and unwilling to cross the border and cause an international incident.

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I suppose....on the other hand, after the trail of carnage the corp left tracking the kids id doubt they would worry much about shooting up Canada.


Pan wrote:
I suppose....on the other hand, after the trail of carnage the corp left tracking the kids id doubt they would worry much about shooting up Canada.

Probably not but then who knows if the Canadian contact did not have an armed team of their own ready to receive the kids. Better for them to capture them in the US territory then risk a firefight with an unknown element.

Or maybe the writer and director gave this zero thought at all... :-)


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X-24 is a successor project to X-23 and the other kids, yet he's fully mature...how?

X-24 is "something without a soul", but by his appearance, might as well be a clone of Wolverine. Do clones not have souls? And again, how do you mature them so quickly?

X-24 reminds me of Albert, a Pierce-type android built to kill Wolverine. In my head cannon X-24 and Albert are one and the same.

There is no Elsie-Dee though :(


Saw, liked, cried.

Someone mentioned Get Out last page. Saw that too. Liked it. Didn't cry though.


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I kind of just want them to loss the license and see what marvel can do with the x-men that and so we can start using the term mutant in marvel again.

Even if they get it back, I hope they shelve it, at least for a while (A decade or so at least). Marvel (well, and DC, but I don't care) suffers really heavily from the kitchen sink phenomenon, and any given movie can easily degenerate into a clusterbomb of exposition explaining just the very basics of stuff the majority of the audience will care nothing about.

I'd very much rather the MCU was kept fairly tidy and coherent, and not bog it down in a very midichlorian need to explain where powers come from, nor unleash an unnecessary bevy of additional characters with origin stories that quickly become fairly boring and repetitive.

Though the MCU very badly needs some proper supervillains at some point. At least a couple. I'd take almost anyone, except the yawn-worthy and supremely overhyped Thanos (who really can't pay off at this point), or the blitheringly-inconsistent whiner that is inexplicably called Loki (pick a personality and keep it at least for the duration of a single film). Smashing non-entities into car windshields has gotten very, very old (especially that steve guy).

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I Aagree with Voss. Overall I'm happy with what Fox has done with X-men. Also, supers flicks in general have a one dimensional villain problem no doubt about it.


There's a recent issue with villains. They remove all kind of credibility and deepness to avoid people empathizing with the bad guy. But a character that you cannot empathize with even the slightest is hollow and unidimensional.
Nowadays the villains are mostly bad bad irredeemable baddies and poor mistaken guys that are redeemed in the last.


Villains in most movies are pretty one-dimensional and poor characters. It's why the movies with good/great villains (any genre) stick out so much.


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And I liked Loki. Trickster God of Mischief and Chaos - can't expect him to be simple or obvious.


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Not only movies. It happens in a lot of media. I am the kind of person who likes epic villains with good and believable motivations, but it's hard to find them.
As a GM I have a tendency to develope a lot the motivations of my villains so I can picture why they see themselves as the good ones or legitimated to act like they do. Sometimes it never sees real play but it helps me to portray them in a believable way.
I don't know. Many of my favorite fictional characters are villains. I have a soft spot for them.


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And I liked Loki. Trickster God of Mischief and Chaos - can't expect him to be simple or obvious.

Loki saved Thor movies from being completely forgettable. And he has some depth at least. Tom Hiddleston makes a great Loki too.


Damon Griffin wrote:

It bugged me that almost all the mutant kids were non-entities. I think only one or two of them spoke the entire time in Eden.

Once the bad guys found the kids on the way to the border, why was any effort made to capture them? The kids were supposed to be killed anyway. Just shoot them down, then bag the bodies and harvest useful DNA the same way they did with Caliban.

I expect that the Transigen corporation preferred to have the children dead, as it closes out the project. I think Dr. Rice wanted them alive as test subjects. Since Dr. Rice is directly leading the teams, he's telling them to bring them in alive even though Transigen's orders are "Dead or Alive".

Plus it makes it easier to show the bad guys being successful without having to convince the ratings boards of 20+ countries that they should release a movie where they slaughter pre-teens.

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I understand its difficult to develop multiple characters well in the span of a typical film. I'm talking about the "I'm super pissed for simple reasons, and want to commit genocide. Also, I cant be reasoned with" villain that is present in about 2/3 of these films.


It is. But the villain is usually one of the main characters! He deserves some love too!

Note that in Logan I don't care a lot about the lack of charisma of the villain, as he's mostly an excuse to get the things moving.

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