My Self |
Assuming your styles have "Weapon Focus" as a prerequisite, you can be a level 6 fighter and take the Weapon Mastery feat Weapon Style Mastery. Alternatively, have a BAB of 6, take the Martial Focus Feat, then take the Weapon Style Mastery feat.
Only one of the two styles needs to be a Weapon Focus style, but this is exactly the case.
VMC Fighter can also pick it up directly after 11th (!) level, since you get Weapon Training. Although you're almost certainly better picking it up via Martial Focus -> Weapon Style Mastery, since even a Wizard will have BAB 6 by level 12.
My Self |
martial focus-weapon style mastery it is then also are there any extra feats monks can use their bonus feats for the list provided is horribly small and my character will be kinda feat starved
Nope. It's meant to be a rare ability, since Style feats are fairly powerful on their own, and grow much stronger when combined (Pummeling Style chain + Dragon Style chain + Monk with Flurry = Lots of easy pounce-kills)
Mind if we ask how you're building your Monk?
Fuzzy-Wuzzy |
Some feats mark themselves as available.
Ki Diversity (can be taken multiple times with different benefits)
Secret of Steel-Shattering Spirit if you trained at one of the Houses of Perfection
Aaaaand... that may be all of them. Most of them become available sometime after 1st level; the Special part of the feat will say.
doomman47 |
doomman47 wrote:martial focus-weapon style mastery it is then also are there any extra feats monks can use their bonus feats for the list provided is horribly small and my character will be kinda feat starvedNope. It's meant to be a rare ability, since Style feats are fairly powerful on their own, and grow much stronger when combined (Pummeling Style chain + Dragon Style chain + Monk with Flurry = Lots of easy pounce-kills)
Mind if we ask how you're building your Monk?
im going to be going dragon style pummelling charge route with an unchained monk/enlightened paladin for extra self healing and bonus to saves my lvl 1 feat and lvl 3 feat are taken up already tho.
Diachronos |
Master of Many Styles is the best way to use multiple style feats. However, there are a few other options, albeit more limited ones:
Free-Style Fighter can have two styles active at level 3, three styles at level 11, and four styles at level 15. Plus you get martial flexibility like a Brawler of your Fighter level. The downside is that you give up armor training, weapon training, and weapon mastery, on top of your 1st, 6th, 10th, and 12th level bonus feats.
Weapon Style Mastery is available to anybody who gets Weapon Training or takes the Martial Focus feat, and lets you have two active styles as long as one of them is the weapon style you chose for Weapon Style Mastery. Your options are going to be fairly limited, though, since most weapon styles don't compliment each other or other styles.
doomman47 |
Master of Many Styles is the best way to use multiple style feats. However, there are a few other options, albeit more limited ones:
Free-Style Fighter can have two styles active at level 3, three styles at level 11, and four styles at level 15. Plus you get martial flexibility like a Brawler of your Fighter level. The downside is that you give up armor training, weapon training, and weapon mastery, on top of your 1st, 6th, 10th, and 12th level bonus feats.
Weapon Style Mastery is available to anybody who gets Weapon Training or takes the Martial Focus feat, and lets you have two active styles as long as one of them is the weapon style you chose for Weapon Style Mastery. Your options are going to be fairly limited, though, since most weapon styles don't compliment each other or other styles.
just looked over the styles none of them have weapon focus as a prereq....
doomman47 |
doomman47 wrote:just looked over the styles none of them have weapon focus as a prereq....Ascetic Style (not PFS legal)
Empty Quiver Style
Outslug Style
Overwatch Style
Slipslinger Style
Smashing Style
Spear Dancing Style
Startoss Style
Swordplay Style
ewww thos are so awful so without 3 lvls in fighter i gess theres no way to use 2 styles at the same time then the next question is is there anything that will emulate this ability from dragon style? You ignore difficult terrain when you charge, run, or withdraw. You can also charge through squares that contain allies. so i can use it in congunction with pummeling charge that or have there be a way to use pummeling charge without needing to be in pummeling style
Fuzzy-Wuzzy |
You can ignore difficult terrain by getting Feather Step Slippers for all of 2000 gp. Not every ability has to come from your class & feats.
Charging through allies is tougher....
Gisher |
You can ignore difficult terrain by getting Feather Step Slippers for all of 2000 gp. Not every ability has to come from your class & feats.
Charging through allies is tougher....
Just be aware that they now are only usable once per day for 10 minutes.
FEATHER STEP SLIPPERS
Once per day for 10 minutes, these fine silken slippers allow their wearer to ignore the adverse movement effects of difficult terrain as if subject to the feather step spell, including granting the ability to take 5-foot steps in difficult terrain.
Archives of Nethys hasn't updated the entry yet.
Fuzzy-Wuzzy |
Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:You can ignore difficult terrain by getting Feather Step Slippers for all of 2000 gp. Not every ability has to come from your class & feats.
Charging through allies is tougher....
Just be aware that they now are only usable once per day for 10 minutes.
UE, 2nd printing wrote:Archives of Nethys hasn't updated the entry yet.FEATHER STEP SLIPPERS
Once per day for 10 minutes, these fine silken slippers allow their wearer to ignore the adverse movement effects of difficult terrain as if subject to the feather step spell, including granting the ability to take 5-foot steps in difficult terrain.
D'OH!
PossibleCabbage |
Saethori wrote:Really? Why?doomman47 wrote:just looked over the styles none of them have weapon focus as a prereq....Ascetic Style (not PFS legal)
Because the clause "as well as any effects that augment an unarmed strike" is overly broad. The intended clarification by the author of the feat is to replace that clause with "as well as any feat that augments an unarmed strike" but Paizo does not do errata for Player Companion books.
So it pretty much has to be illegal in PFS since the feat, as printed, is unreasonable.
Imbicatus |
Saethori wrote:ewww thos are so awful so without 3 lvls in fighter i gess theres no way to use 2 styles at the same time then the next question is is there anything that will emulate this ability from dragon style? You ignore difficult terrain when you charge, run, or withdraw. You can also charge through squares that contain allies. so i can use it in congunction with pummeling charge that or have there be a way to use pummeling charge without needing to be in pummeling styledoomman47 wrote:just looked over the styles none of them have weapon focus as a prereq....Ascetic Style (not PFS legal)
Empty Quiver Style
Outslug Style
Overwatch Style
Slipslinger Style
Smashing Style
Spear Dancing Style
Startoss Style
Swordplay Style
Outslug Style is actually very good, and a great fit with both dragon style or pummeling style. An unchained monk really doesn't need pummeling style anyway. You get your pseudo-pounce from Flying Kick.
Tarantula |
Shielded gauntlet style is great with spiked gauntlets, but there is a giant question mark on if non spiked gauntlets actually count as weapons and can be enchanted as such.
Really? Its in the weapon table, has a weapon description, and is in a fighter weapon group (close). Gauntlets are absolutely a "weapon" that can be enchanted. They are barely different than a spiked gauntlet anyway (1d3 B vs 1d4 P) damage.
Imbicatus |
Imbicatus wrote:Shielded gauntlet style is great with spiked gauntlets, but there is a giant question mark on if non spiked gauntlets actually count as weapons and can be enchanted as such.Really? Its in the weapon table, has a weapon description, and is in a fighter weapon group (close). Gauntlets are absolutely a "weapon" that can be enchanted. They are barely different than a spiked gauntlet anyway (1d3 B vs 1d4 P) damage.
See this thread, especially Protoman's post. While in a home game, you are absolutely correct, per Paizo's stealth clarification it is not a weapon, but a modification to unarmed strike. I wouldn't recommend using enchanted gauntlets in pfs until an official clarification is made.
PossibleCabbage |
It seems to me that the final feat in Shielded Gauntlet Style implies "enhancement bonuses on gauntlets exist." If this is a buff to the monk, who can now avoid the perfunctory AoMF provided all they do is punch, I don't think this is game breaking. A world in which "monks are too good" is a world I would like to see, at least once.
Ascalaphus |
I'm not saying "too good", but in the PFS play I see, monks from around level 5 (flying kick) are a fully functional class that don't need to apologize to anyone. Especially with Pummeling Style to handle DR. When the L10 monk is consistently doing 90 damage per round in a DR-only-once burst no matter where on the map enemies started, that's not an underpowered class anymore.