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The Gold Sovereign wrote:


- Playble medium fey race with fairy like appearance.

Agreed.

I wouldn't mind an additional plant-type PC (Ghorans are pretty great, to be sure, but a lower-powered one for those who feel they're a bit strong).

Oh, I'd like a rabbit people with high movement, something that can be made into a character that really zips around the battlefield.

Another alien/distant worlds species would be good.


Davia D wrote:
More Proteans, and some Protean Lords! They're a very major planar group with *no* representatives.

I think that the Hell's Vengeance AP has several new Proteans... but don't quote me on this one ^^;


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Davia D, I would also like races like those as well. Gold Sovereign I would also love a medium size fairy race.


JiCi wrote:
Davia D wrote:
More Proteans, and some Protean Lords! They're a very major planar group with *no* representatives.
I think that the Hell's Vengeance AP has several new Proteans... but don't quote me on this one ^^;

It does (and I assume those will be in 6), I mean, more beyond that ^^


This is just my personal preferences and obsession with numerical equality going but... in the books (Campaign setting, Adventure Paths, and Hardcovers) there are a little under 200 Aberrations, whereas the Outsiders have 613 representative creatures (within about 3 or 4 above or below). While I do love getting new members of underrepresented fiend categories, I must stress this, other types deserve a chance to grow to the numerical magnificence of Outsiders. Just think of all the New and interesting Aberrations, Constructs, Fey, Magical beasts, Oozes, Plants, Undead, Vermin, etc. we could have if we got into numerical equality.

On a separate note, While I dislike "True Dragons", I have no problems with other types of Dragons. After hearing a long and drawn out discussion about Linnorms, I am Fairly Certain that We need Loch Linnorms, as Lochs are not Fjords, Gares, or Tarns.

alright, with that said, I am staying off of this particular discussion until I have my copy of B6.
I may or may not post on other things, sporadically between that time, but no more wishes/rants about numerical equality until then (after that book is Out I will write a big huge list that may or may not be annoying, so spoilers. I will be looking at my personal list, and cross-referencing it with existing pathfinder monsters, point out if I missed one and put an already made Pathfinder beastie in, though)
(Edit: I will be including the name of the author the creature belongs to in the event that it belongs to an author, or in the case that an author mentions it briefly, and if it was written by an author whose copyright status is contested, will be looking up the copyright status to better improve the Weird Fiction Section)


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Of the types you listed, I think Aberrations (Since they're by nature diverse) Magical Beasts (Since that's a catch-all group for animal-like monsters with any kind of power), Constructs (Since I imagine in-universe inventing new construct types shouldn't be that difficult for an experienced wizard, so they are probably exceptionally diverse. Plus we've barely scratched the surface of potential diversity amongst robots.), and Fey (There are thousands of different types all over world mythology, and that's not even counting original concepts) would have the potential to be as diverse as Outsiders. I honestly think we have enough human-based undead, but undead based on things other than humans would add a lot more potential for diversity. In terms of plants, I would primarily be interested in more "Plantimals," or plants that have the shape of either an animal or humanoid. Vermin have plenty of diversity in the real world, and if we throw in original types that would add to them greatly. I'm actually okay with oozes being either the least or second least (I forget) numerous type. Honestly, there's only so much interesting stuff that can be done with a shapeless blob of goo. I definitely understand why Outsiders are the most diverse, however. The Great Beyond is a pretty expansive place.


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But Demon Lord, what about plants that lure people into pits by sounding like wounded animals or Lost children?
If we run out of shapeless blobs to make, there are always protoplasmic entities, Slime Molds, Mucus-like creatures, and an infinite array of Giant bacteria and Viruses to Consider.)
I have issues with the one thing that has less than oozes, Vermin. There are an estimated 7 billion life-forms on the planet earth, a large percent of that is typically excepted as being spineless.
Sorry, I lied, Wannabe Demon Lord Coaxed me Out of Hiding *twiddles fingers in shame*


Well, if we have enough good, original, ideas for Plants and Oozes, then, by all means, we should include them. A lot of oozes that have been requested and appeared lately have just fallen under the category of "ball of muck that wields an energy type," and have thus been getting a tad repetitive. But what you mentioned all sound like they have good potential for diversity. Particular giant microbes. I'll bet some interesting stuff could be utilised in that regard.
And I totally agree about the vermin. Even if we're limiting them to just giant versions of real-world creatures, there's an enormous number of options. We haven't even covered all of the basic arthropod types, and there are so many kinds of freaky mollusks, cnidarians, echinoderms, worms, etc. that would make great monsters. Hmm. Giant nudibranchs might be interesting. On top of that, there's tons of prehistoric invertebrates that would be quite interesting, including but not limited to the Cambrian biota. And then there's the fact that a number of different variants of existing types were listed in the bestiaries but never statted up.

Oh, and I'm looking forward to your list. It sounds like you have a number of interesting ideas I may not have considered. So no, it won't be annoying. Enjoy your hiding.


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I like most of those ideas Wannabe Demon Lord, but I am still waiting for giant pitcher plants and giant sundews. I like plant creatures but I am sick of molds and fungus.

I am sick of many outsider groups but I still want more stuff for oni, azura, rakshasa, and all the non-evil outsider groups

Actually I have listed a lot of ideas for oozes on both the B6's and this wish list.


Outsiders do have an advantage in being from *many* planes, I wouldn't expect most types to compete- Fey are just from the First World after all.

Or in out of universe terms, outsiders come from myths, prior editions, and just made up. That's a lot of sources.


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I would like to see a lot more creature types from the different planes then just outsiders.


JiCi wrote:
Davia D wrote:
More Proteans, and some Protean Lords! They're a very major planar group with *no* representatives.
I think that the Hell's Vengeance AP has several new Proteans... but don't quote me on this one ^^;

Oh yea, I just realized there was ambiguity in my phrasing:

We have Proteans, it's the Protean Lords we don't have any of.


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Some protean lords would be nice.

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This lovely fellow. We need one, a kindly NG Wolfman creature that helps the poor and is always mistaken for a werewolf.


Wulvers would be quite cool. It would be particularly interesting to have them be some kind of NG wolf-fey.

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Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Wulvers would be quite cool. It would be particularly interesting to have them be some kind of NG wolf-fey.

Ohh what about as a Playable fey race that is usually NG?


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Why not LG, it is the only alignment that hasn't been used for a fey creature.

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Davia D wrote:
More Proteans, and some Protean Lords! They're a very major planar group with *no* representatives.

Multiple protean lords have been named and described, but finally having some of them given full write ups and stats would indeed be awesome. Obviously I'm biased on this matter. :)


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I would love to see stats for the protean lords as well.


Todd Stewart wrote:


Multiple protean lords have been named and described, but finally having some of them given full write ups and stats would indeed be awesome. Obviously I'm biased on this matter. :)

True, we know a little in the article in 'End of Eternity'.

And I remember they killed one of the prior Daemon Horsemen (which, granted, did *not* turn out well for them). But, I need a lot more before I'm satisfied!

Or not even 'satisfied' since I'd still want more but it'd up my happy level ^^

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Davia D wrote:


And I remember they killed one of the prior Daemon Horsemen (which, granted, did *not* turn out well for them). But, I need a lot more before I'm satisfied!

Or not even 'satisfied' since I'd still want more but it'd up my happy level ^^

Did the Chorus of Malignant Symmetry kill Yrsinius the Horseman of Pestilence? Good question. The daemons might not know themselves what actually went down, but they certainly took action. But it's sort of like stabbing the ocean in the end. You might feel better, if exhausted, but the ocean is still there and by comparison it's infinite (and the Maelstrom compared to a very much discrete Abaddon is literally infinite).

Little bits of protean lore show up whenever I can feasibly add some in and it makes sense, even in things that aren't about the proteans.


Linnorms!!!

Oh and proteans I guess.


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What books have the most info about the proteans and the maelstrom in general?


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I'm getting Arshea and other, lesser demigods in B6, so I'm pretty satisfied. I'm a terrible Buddhist, however, so I'm always wanting more. Lesse...

• More demigods, specifically empyreal lords (more specifically: Lymnieris), under-represented outsiders, and the Eldest.

• Youkai, specifically the ones that've made an appearance in Touhou. I wanna stat up Satori and Kyouko, damnit. (And then there's the enenra...)

• Robots. You hippies* may not like'em, but you'll still pay to see Legolas destroy an annihilator.

*(I apologize to anyone I've offended. Please don't delete this, Chris.)

• Creatures from non-western myth, because representation matters.

• Sexy male anything!

• Good-aligned monsters.

• Stand-alone dragons with their own character, and aren't part of a quintuple clade.


- Quasi-deities (akin to qlippoth lords) from various creature types, like constructs, dragons, vermin or undeads.

- Insect-like 0HD race.

- Inevitables, more inevitables.

- True dragons based on constructs or technology.

- Draconic templates or templates for dragons.


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-Less demi-gods and quasi-deities and if they do have them use a lot of non-outsider based ones.

-A lot more 0HD races.

-A lot more elemental subtype creatures.

-Sexy female anything.

-Some female angel art.

-Oni, kami, inevitables, azura, aeons, and rakshasa, in that order of interest and number.

-More titans.

-More non-humanoid undead.

-Incorporeal creatures that are not undead or outsiders.

-A lot more non-fungus/non-mold based plant creatures.

-A species of giant that is actually colossal size.

-Some more "tauric" creatures.

-More types of lamia, hags, goblinoids, sprites, trolls, leshy, ogres, cyclopes, gremlins, and vampires.

-More non-outsider based creatures from the planes.

-A lot more fey.

-More giant roaches and other giant vermin that haven't used in a bestiary for a while.

-More CN and LN creatures.

-5 new dragons maybe based on light, sound, gravity, mass, and energy.

-Bat winged eyeball monsters.

-More creatures from the positive energy plane, dimension of time, dimension of dreams, axis, and the maelstrom.


Dragon78 wrote:
What books have the most info about the proteans and the maelstrom in general?

The Great Beyond for the Maelstron, plus an article in the adventure path book 'End of Eternity' in the legacy of fire path.


Eldest, protean lords, sexy male anything, unique dragons

Dems my wish list :P


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More creatures from the legends of non-European and non-East Asian cultures. We already have a decent assortment, but... I wantz moar.

More creatures from oddball ecosystems like the Darklands or the Mana Wastes.

More Great Old Ones.

More robots- and more different stylistic "takes" on robots.

More templates- my old saw about a template for converting a Changeling with class levels into the right sort of Hag, for example.

I'd like the Charau-Ka to make the jump into a formal Bestiary entry. It's kind of weird that they haven't yet.

More urban-environment Fey.


In Bestiary 5 we have the Caligni, that is the 0HD version of the Dark Folks.

I would love seeing 0HD versions for Thriaes, Formians, Satyrs and maybe even Dryads.


True dragons for the outer planes not covered in B6 (with a second one for the Abyss).


Because the inclusion of the Ojancanu and Anjana in the recent AP got me thinking about Spain's monsters, and because MMCJawa said he hadn't heard of them before (so he at least might find this useful), I'm posting a large list of Spanish beasties here for you guys to enjoy. This is not my list, (credit goes to usua on DeviantArt) by I have researched a few of these beings and they seem to be legit. It is fairly disorganized, however, but I think sense can be made of most of it.

Spanish Creatures:

TRASGU 1
Height: (M) 1'6 Feet , (F) 1'5 Feet
Weight: (M) 7 Pounds , (F) 6.3 Pounds
The trasgu or trasno is the Asturian equivalent of the leprechaun, a mischievous domestic creature who causes minor annoyance and disorder but who ultimately is relatively harmless. In Asturian tradition he is described as wearing a red cap, and curiously, as having a hole through his left hand. The trasgu disrupts the rhythms of household and work life by stealing small objects such as keys, moving furniture during the night, and generally making a nuisance of himself. In some places it is told that the trasgu can be domesticated, after which he will perform chores around the house until he is released from servitude. This aspect of the Celtic tradition has survived in J.K. Rowling’s house elves, who are bound to serve the households of wizards until they are presented with an item of clothing to wear. Anyone who remembers Dobby the house elf from the Harry Potter books or movies will be familiar with this variant tradition. The trasgu, like the Gremlin from Anglo tradition, is a metaphor for the normal disorder that invades our lives, a reminder that despite our best efforts, some things will never be completely organized or regularized. They are margin of error incarnate. Appropriately, when young children create mischief their elders scold them calling them pequeñus tragsus. This comparison makes a lot of sense when we take into account the trasgu‘s behavior. He is annoying to the point of enraging, but ultimately benevolent, and even lovable. In one tradition, a local family is so fed up with the shenanigans of their house’s trasgu that they pack up and leave. Once their cart is packed up and ready to pull away, the trasgu pops his head from under the bundles and says: ya que vais tous, de casa mudada, tamién múdome you, cula mióu gorra culurada, or in English since you’re all moving away from this house, I’m moving too, with my little red hat!

GIZOTSO 2
Gizotso is the name given in Basque to the Iberian Wolf Man.

TRENTI 3
Height: (M) 1'10 Feet , (F) 1'9 Feet
Weight: (M) 12 Pounds , (F) 11 Pounds
Imp-like creature from the mythology of Cantabria, Spain. creature with dark skin and green eyes, his cover in mushrooms, moss, roots and leaves, lives deep in the forest. Is very annoying, and likes of made pranks to the humans, his favorite pull women's skirts and runaway jumping, but also likes to help humans specialy kids.

RAMIDREJU 4
Creature from cantabrian folclore, This creatures are born every 100 years from a weasel or a marten they have a very long body, like a snake, and their fur is green-colored. Its eyes are yellow and its nose is like that of a hog, which it uses to dig very deep holes, they are a very wanted animal because its fur heals every sickness and the animal has a big desire for gold.

FISH-MAN OF LIÉRGANES - (HOMBRE PEZ ) 5
Height: (M) 6 Feet , (F) 5'7 Feet
Weight: (M) 170 Pounds , (F) 140 Pounds

GUAJONA 6
Height: (M) 6'1 Feet , (F) 5'8 Feet
Weight: (M) 170 Pounds , (F) 140 Pounds
In the cantabrian mythology, the Guajona is an old lady, covered with a black mantle, with a emaciated face and only one tooth, enormously as a dagger, she hides in the day and come out in the night, when she enters in the houses, and approaches the children and healthy young persons when they are sleeping and drink their blood using is long tooth, leaving discolored and weak, but she never kills her victims.

BUSGOSU 7
Height: (M) 5'9 Feet , (F) 5'4 Feet
Weight: (M) 150 Pounds , (F) 120 Pounds

MONUCA 8
The monuca is a legendary animal in the mythology of Cantabria. It is similar to Marten or weasel, with certain feline traits. His fur is multicolored being his white head; body colors red, blue and black and the tail Purple.

TARTALO 9
Height: (M) 12 Feet , (F) 11'1 Feet
Weight: (M) 1600 - 1800 Pounds , (F) 1280 - 1480 Pounds
In Basque mythology, Tartalo is an enormously strong one-eyed giant very similar to the Greco-Roman Cyclops. Height: 12 ft and Weight: 1600 lbs. It is speculated that the name may derive from the Greek underworld Tartaros. He lives in caves in the mountains and catches young people in order to eat them. He also eats sheep. In Biscay, it's known as Alarabi. There is a story about him that appears to be derived from the Odyssey.

JENTIL 10
Height: (M) 15 Feet , (F) 13'10 Feet
Weight: (M) 2800 Pounds , (F) 2180 Pounds
The jentil (or Jentilak with the Basque plural), were a race of giants in the Basque mythology. This word meaning gentile, from Latin gentilis, was used to refer to prechristian civilizations and in particular to the builders of megalithic monuments, to which the other basque mythical legend the Mairuak are involved too.

OJANCANU and OJANCANA 11
Height: (M) 10 Feet , (F) 9'2 Feet
Weight: (M) 1150 Pounds , (F) 965 Pounds
The ojáncanu (ojancano) of Cantabrian mythology. This mythic creature is a giant of superhuman strength characterized by his single eye, huge body, ten fingered hand and ten toed foot, lower jaw two tusks, his long beard, Brown and red hair. He is so beast-like, so cruel and so ugly, that anybody seeing him would flee in horror. He is constantly doing evil deeds such as pulling up rocks, destroying huts and trees, and blocking water sources. He fights Cantabrian brown bears and Tudanca bulls, and always wins. He only fears the Anjanas, the good Cantabrian fairies. One must pull out the only white hair of his beard to kill him.
The ojáncana of Cantabrian mythology. This mythic creature is a giantess of superhuman strength characterized by his single eye, huge body, ten fingered hand and ten toed foot, lower jaw two tusks, huge breasts, long hair, Brown and red hair.

IJANA DE ARAS 12
Height: (M) 6 Feet , (F) 5'7 Feet
Weight: (M) 160 Pounds , (F) 130 Pounds

AATXE - ZEZENGORRI 13
Aatxe is a spirit in the folk mythology of the Basque people. His name is literally translated as "Young Bull", and he is sometimes known as Etsai. He is a cave-dwelling spirit who adopts the form of a young red bull, but being a shapeshifter, sometimes takes the shape of a man. At night, more so in stormy weather, he arises from the hollow which is his lair. He attacks criminals and other malevolent people. He also protects people by making them stay home when danger is near.
He is theorized to be a representative of the goddess Mari, or may be an enforcer of her will, punishing people who cheat her. Another name for him is Aatxegorri which means "young red bull". It is believed Aatxe inhabited caves and hollows; in many (Isturits, Sare, Errenteria, among others) engravings and paintings depicting aurochs, bulls, and oxen have been found; which implies that this Basque myth has its origins in the Paleolithic.

ORICUERNO 14
It's a white horse, with the legs of a fallow deer and the tail of a lion. It has purple head, blue eyes, and a long and twisted horn in its forehead (white at the beginning, black at the middle, and red at the end). He is known as Unicorn in other places, but the one from Cantabria is different because of the little wings it has on the hoof. The name of alicornio comes from there, since "Ala" in spanish means "Wing".

GUAXA 15
The Guaxa is the owl vampire of the Asturian mythology par excellence.

GALTZAGORRIAK 16
Height: (M) 5 Inches , (F) 5.15 Inches
Weight: (M) ? Oz , (F) ? Oz
Galtxagorriak. In Basque mythology, galtzagorriak, meaning the red-pants, are a type of iratxoak or imps.
According to the legend, a certain peasant who sought a way to do less work, was advised to go to certain shop of Bayonne and buy a box of galtzagorriak. He did that and, when he was back to his farm, he opened the small box. A bunch of little imps with red pants jumped immediately from it asking "what do we do, what do we do?" He immediately put them to work: repair the fence, prepare the land, milk the cows, redo the ceiling... in few minutes the galtzagorriak had done all the jobs and asked again "what do we do now, what do we do now?". The peasant ordered them to do many other things and again the job was done in minutes. But the galtzagorriak kept asking what to do. The more than pleased peasant had to say: "nothing". Frustrated the imps started to undo all the jobs they had done. Eventually, the peasant managed to get them back into their box and, from then on, he decided to do his job by himself.

VENTOLIN 17
Height: (M) 2 Feet , (F) 1'11 Feet
Wingspan: (M) 8 Feet , (F) 7'10 Feet
Weight: (M) 10 Pounds , (F) 8.5 Pounds
The Ventolines are creatures that are found in the tradition Cantabrian and Asturian. Them ventolines are spirits of the air that help to those who live in the costa Cantabrian.
n Cantabria is les describes with great wings green, and eyes of the color of the waves to the untangle is, with face angelic, that live on the sea, in them clouds reddish of West.

IRELTSO 18
He Ireltso can present is as a species of pig, although it distinguishes something strange-almost human-in a behavior and their gait in its form of look. Can present you with this form, of donkey or bird.
When someone is estravia to the pursue them, them carry until roads without return that end abruptly in ravines, cliffs or deep chasms.

TENTIRUJO 19
Height: (M) 8 Inches , (F) 7.12 Inches
Weight: (M) 1.5 pounds , (F) 1.2 pounds
The tentirujo is a goblin's pointy ears, dress red-beret on the head. Height: 8 inches. He lives in the basins of the rivers Saja and Besaya.
Take advantage of the invisibility that produce you the tender shoots of mandragora which always carries with him to approachthe obedient young to caress young women and return them brazen. So, when one mozuca gets sassy night overnight, says: "that already stumbled the Tentirujo!"

MIKOLASAK 20
Height: (M) 2'6 Feet , (F) 2'4 Feet
Weight: (M) 20 Pounds , (F) 17.5 Pounds
In the mythology of the country Basque, the Mikolasak are small IMPS of great strength to live always in group. Mikolasak have red skinned, silver hair, silver eyes, big chin, big nose and dark red tiny horns. Height: 2'6 ft and Weight: 20 lbs. They are skilled builders, working the stone can be used to build large buildings or bridges in a night. They are kept away from humans due to her reclusive and stubborn personality.
The construction of the bridges of Azelain, in Andoain (Gipuzkoa) and Kastrexana (Biscay) describe them.

XANA 21
Height: (M) 5'10 Feet , (F) 5'4 Feet
Weight: (M) 145 Pounds , (F) 115 Pounds
The xana is a character found in Asturian mythology. Always female, she is a fairy nymph of extraordinary beauty believed to live in fountains, rivers, waterfalls or forested regions with pure water. She is usually described as small or slender with long blonde or light brown hair (most often curly), which she tends to with gold or silver combs woven from sun or moonbeams.

NUBERU 22
Height: (M) 11 Feet , (F) 10'2 Feet
Weight: (M) 830 Pounds , (F) 600 Pounds
The Nuberu or Nubeiro is a character of Asturian, Cantabrian or Galician mythology. He is known by the two names respectively depending on the mythology. According to Asturian mythology, the Nuberu - literally "The Cloud Master" (also known in Western Asturias as Reñubeiru or Xuan Cabritu), is the Asturian divinity of clouds and storms.
Sometimes it is represented as a man with a thick beard, who wears goat leathers and a big hat. He can be terribly cruel with people, damaging fields and pastures, although he can be also be very kind with those who had helped him before. The myth tell us that he lives in the city of Orito, in Egypt. Folklorists think that Nuberu is an Asturian remnant of the ancient god Taranis, who also ruled over the skies and was worshipped in Asturias until the Middle Ages.

PESANTA 23
In Catalan legend and popular culture, the Pesanta is an enormous dog (or sometimes a cat) that goes into people's houses in the night and puts itself on their chests making it difficult for them to breathe and causing them the most horrible nightmares. The Pesanta is black and hairy, with steel paws, but with holes so it can't take anything.

COCOLLONA 24
Legend has it that on the left bank of the River Onyar, in the neighborhood of Mercadal, there was a convent of nuns and devotees took a little messy life. Among them was a novice with true religious vocation that had reproached life.
The other nuns not to hear their reproaches, they shut in a cell in the basement of the convent. It was closed for many years due to darkness and humidity they went out a few flakes around the body and gradually underwent a metamorphosis that turned into a crocodile. But due to its holiness and purity of his soul back there came the wonderful butterfly wings, bright colors and transforming La Cocollona.
When he died, his ghost began to see the river Onyar swimming very close to where he had been unjustly imprisoned. They say that only the full moon, towards dawn, which at that time misty ghosts are visible Girona those who are truly sensitive, can see through the fog silhouette of a crocodile that swam butterfly up and down to see the first ray of sunshine.

Lamiak 25
The lamiak is a siren- or nereid-like creature in Basque mythology. Lamiak live in the river. They are very beautiful, and stay at the shore combing their long hair with a golden comb; they easily charm men. They have duck feet.

SUGAAR 26
Length: (M) 25 Feet , (F) 24 Feet
Weight: (M) 600 Pounds , (F) 510 Pounds
In Basque mythology, Sugaar is the male half of a pre-Christian Basque deity associated with storms and thunder. He is normally imagined as a dragon or serpent. Unlike his female consort, Mari, there are very few remaining legends about Sugaar. The basic purpose of his existence is to periodically join with Mari in the mountains to generate the storms.
In one myth Sugaar seduces a Scottish princess in the village of Mundaka to father the mythical first Lord of Biscay, Jaun Zuria. This legend is believed to be a fabrication made to legitimize the Lordship of Biscay as a separate state from Navarre, because there is no historical account of such a lord. Only the fact that the delegates of Mundaka were attributed with the formal privilege of being the first to vote in the Biltzar (Parliament) of the province may look as unlikely indication of the partial veracity of this legend.

AKERBELTZ 27
Height: (M) 7 Feet , (F) 6'6 Feet
Weight: (M) 285 Pounds , (F) 220 Pounds
Akerbeltz that literally means black goat, is the basque version of a pan, he usually apears as a healer, specially an animal healer, in some Basque Country´s farms there is a tradition to have a black goat betwen all the animals to akerbeltz protect them.

IRATXOAK 28
Height: (M) 2 Feet , (F) 1'11 Feet
Weight: (M) 12 Pounds , (F) 11 Pounds
Iratxoak (sing.: iratxo) are the imps of Basque mythology. Usually benevolent, they help with farming labors in the night if given presents of food.

ANJANA 29
Anjana is a type of witch in Hispanic folklore, the name perhaps being derived from Jana or Diana. While according to Cantabrian mythology they are one of the best known fairies. These witches/fairies take on theform of old women to test out the charity of human beings. They foil the cruel and ruthless Ojáncanu. In most stories, they are the good fairies of Cantabria, generous and protective of all people. their true form they are beautiful young women, fair haired and blue-eyed, clothed in tunics made of flowers and silver stars. They carry a gold staff and wear green stockings. They watch over animals and have underground palaces full of jewels and other treasure. The touch of their staff turns everything into riches.

BASAJAUN 30
Height: (M) 9 Feet , (F) 8'4 Feet
Weight: (M) 660 Pounds , (F) 480 Pounds
Basajaun, that literally means "lord of the forest", is the protecter of the forest, the shepherds and their flocks, every time the storm is arriving he supose to notice them.

MULADONA 31
In Catalan mythology a Muladona or Donamula (mule-woman or woman-mule in Catalan) is a female mule with a human woman's head. Legend has it that a young woman was cursed by the townspeople for being irreverent and irreligious and the curse turned her into a mule. She is said to wander the mountains, especially at night, joining mule trains. It is thought that the mules are frightened by her presence and stampede and they may even fall into ravines and die.
The Muladona looks like a mule but it is a mixture of human and animal, its mane is like a woman’s hair and its face, while still appearing to be like that of an animal, is obviously human.
It is always represented with the four legs of a mule, but sometimes the front two legs join a thorax located where a mule would have its neck. In addition, the animal is always represented with breasts to underline that it is female.
The muleteers used to give their mules small Muladona-shaped pieces of bread to eat in the belief that this would stop the animals being frightened and allow them to ignore her if she appeared. In addition they would repeatedly count the number of mules in the mule train in order to discover if the Muladona had become mixed in with their animals without them realizing, allowing them to avoid paying the price for the havoc she could sow.

SANTA COMPAÑA 32
The 'Santa Compaña' (Holy Company) is a mytical belief from Galicia and Asturias (my land, where it is called "Güestia"), in northwest Spain. It's a procession of souls that wanders paths and forests. It's an omen of death for those who see it pass by.
It's said that if you see the Santa Compaña you must draw a circle in the ground and get in, or lie face-down and cover your ears to not hear their prayers.

ROBLÓN 33
The roblón is a tree animated with features human, a giant of the Cantabrian mythology.

PECU 34
The both is a bird of evil, like the Hawk, grey head and back, chest and belly stripes and broom-shaped tail.

ESPUMERU 35
Height: (M) 2 Feet , (F) 1'11 Feet
Weight: (M) 13 Pounds , (F) 11 Pounds
El Espumeru is the playful spirit of the surf in the local mythology. We will be collecting something from the sea to take to the mountaintop and, eventually, something from the mountaintop back to the sea at the end of the week.

TRASTOLILLO 36
Height: (M) 2 Feet , (F) 1'11 Feet
Weight: (M) 25 Pounds , (F) 22 Pounds
It is best known among all the Goblins that inhabit houses in Cantabria. Is a Goblin playful and scatterbrained that constantly is laughing is. It is small and dark-skinned, with long black hair.
You have rogue face and some very green eyes, a fat nose, large teeth, two small horns and a corner eyeliner.
He wears a kind of robe which is made with bark sewn together, cover the head with a white cap and is supports in a stick of wood.
All the things that happen inside the House and that are inexplicable are copyright to the Trastolillo. As people know that they are things of the Goblin are surprised or frightened.
---Spanish---
Es el más conocido de entre todos los duendes que habitan las casas de Cantabria. Es un duende juguetón y atolondrado que constantemente está riéndose. Es pequeño y de piel morena, con el pelo largo y negro.
Tiene carita de pícaro y unos ojillos muy verdes, una nariz gorda, dientes grandes, dos pequeños cuernos y un rabillo corto.
Viste una especie de túnica que se hace con cortezas de árbol cosidas, se cubre la cabeza con un gorrito blanco y se apoya en un bastón de madera.
Todas las cosas que suceden dentro de la casa y que son inexplicables tienen por autor al Trastolillo. Como la gente sabe que son cosas del duende ni se sorprenden ni se asustan.

MOMOTXORRO 37
He is a mitological character from basque mythology, the Momotxorro. Momotxorros appear in carnivals in Alsasua.

HERENSUGE 38
Herensuge is the name for dragon in Basque language. In Basque mythology, dragons appear sparingly, sometimes with seven heads. Only the god Sugaar is associated with this creature but more often with a serpent.

CABALLUCOS 39
In the cantabrian mythology, Caballucos, with Horse head of four-feet and giant dragonflies thorax, four-legs, four-forewings, two-eyes and abdomen. The Caballucos appear in a variety of colors.

OSA ÁNDARA -+- BEARWOMAN ÁNDARA 40
Height: Feet
weight: Pounds
Cantabrian mythology.

DIP 41
In Catalan myth, Dip is an evil, black, hairy dog, an emissary of the Devil, who sucks people's blood. Like other figures associated with demons in Catalan myth, he is lame in one leg. Dip is pictured on the escutcheon of Pratdip.

CUEGLE 42
Height: (M) 8 Feet , (F) 7'5 Feet
Weight: (M) 500 Pounds , (F) 400 Pounds
The cuegle is a monster in Cantabrian folklore. Walking on two legs and roughly humanoid in shape, it has black skin, his long beard, grey hair, pointed ears, three arms without hands or fingers, five rows of teeth, a single stubby horn and three eyes in its head: one green, one red, and one blue. Despite its small size, it has great strength. The cuegle attacks people and livestock, and is reputed to steal babies from the cradle. It may be protected against by placing oak or holly leaves, which it finds repulsive, in the cradle.

CUÉLEBRE 43
Cuélebre (Asturian) or Culebre (Cantabrian), is a giant winged serpent-dragon of the Asturian and Cantabrian mythology, that lives in a cave, guards treasures and keeps xanas / anjanas as prisoners. Although they are immortal, they grow old as the time goes by and their scales become thick and impenetrable, and bat wings grow in their bodies. They don't usually move, and when they do it, it is in order to eat cattle and people. One can kill the cuélebre giving him as meal a red-hot stone or a bread full of pins. Its spit it is said to turn into a magic stone which heals many diseases.

MUSGOSO 44
In the cantabrian mythology, Musgoso. Is is of a man high and delgado, gloomy of face pale, eyes small and sunken and beard black very long, with air tired, that walks by them brañas dress with a zamarra of MOSS, hat of leaves, socksof skin of Wolf and in the pouch takes always a flute of a wood unknown. Always it is walking very slowly, as if he were tired, but it never stops.

GATIPEDRO 45
The gatipedro is a white cat that is characterized by having a dark color on full front horn and also walk leaning, besides for its four legs, with the language.
The gatipedro comes from night to the houses, and enters in those where has children sleeping. A time inside, the gatipedro uses the Horn to release, little to little, drops of water in the rooms where sleeping children small. The children, in dreams, hear the constant drip of the Horn and dream that mean, and really mean, wetting the bed. To avoid entering the children's rooms, just take a little salt in the room doors and at the foot of the windows. Since the gatipedro steps leaning on the language, you notice the taste of salt, which dislikes, so turn and continues his walk, without disturbing the sleep of infants.
---Spanish---
El gatipedro es un gato blanco que se caracteriza por poseer un cuerno de color oscuro en plena frente y también por caminar apoyándose, además de por sus cuatro patas, con la lengua.
El gatipedro viene de noche a las casas, y entra en aquellas donde haya niños durmiendo. Una vez dentro, el gatipedro usa el cuerno para soltar, poquito a poco, gotas de agua en las habitaciones donde duermen niños pequeños. Los niños, en sueños, escuchan el constante goteo del cuerno y sueñan que mean, y realmente mean, mojando la cama. Para evitar que entre en las habitaciones de los niños, basta con echar un poco de sal en las puertas de la habitación y al pie de las ventanas. Dado que el gatipedro camina apoyándose en la lengua, nota el sabor de la sal, que le desagrada, por lo que se da la vuelta y sigue su caminata nocturna, sin molestar el sueño de los infantes.

GAMUSINO 46
Height: (M) 2 Feet , (F) 1'11 Feet
Weight: (M) 20 Pounds , (F) 18 Pounds
---Spanish---
El gamusino es un ser imaginario utilizado desde hace mucho tiempo en varias regiones de España y Portugal para engañar y hacerle bromas a los niños y a cazadores inexpertos, pescadores novatos , o gente ajena a la idiosincrasia del mundo rural. La más habitual consiste en convencer al novato de que el gamusino es un animal esquivo que sólo puede cazarse de noche.
El mito del Gamusino está muy extendido por la Península y tiene multitud de variantes regionales y multitud de nombres, aunque todas las variantes consisten en seres imaginarios de naturaleza similar al gamusino. Así, se llama gambosí o gambutzí en Cataluña o gambusino en Salamanca, gangüezno en algunas zonas de Extremadura; biosbardos, gazafellos o cocerellos en Galicia, cordoveyos en Asturias, gambozino en Portugal y gambusino o gamburrino en otros lugares de la península. En el altoaragonés de la comarca de Ayerbe se utiliza por su parte el vocablo bambosino.

TARDO 47
Height: (M) 6 Inches , (F) 5'14 Inches
Weight: (M) ? Oz , (F) ? Oz
The tardo is a Goblin of the Galician mythology, similar to the trasno but much more malicious.
It is small, hairy, with many teeth, greenish and beady eyes black; It has beard and goes dressed in old clothes and a red Cap. In addition, it differs from other goblins because it carries a small and sharp sword. It is customary to live underground and take advantage of the darkness of the night to enter the houses, and thus, sitting on the chest of sleeping people, causing thempain and terrible nightmares.
To get rid of it is enough to leave a bowl of popcorn or some other cereal. As it is very curious, he will go to see the bowl and begin to count the grains, but as it only knows to count up to one hundred, returns to start again and again and thus will spend the night without disturbing, disappearing at dawn.
---Spanish---
El tardo es un duende de la mitología gallega, similar al trasno pero mucho más malévolo.
Es pequeño, peludo, con muchos dientes, de color verdoso y ojos redondos y negros; tiene barba y va vestido con ropas viejas y un gorro rojo. Además, se diferencia de otros duendes porque lleva una pequeña y afilada espada. Acostumbra a vivir bajo tierra y aprovecha la oscuridad de la noche para entrar en las casas, y así, sentarse sobre el pecho de las personas dormidas, provocándoles dolor y terribles pesadillas.
Para librarse de él basta con dejar un cuenco con granos de maíz o algún otro cereal. Como es muy curioso, irá a ver el cuenco y empezará a contar los granos, pero como sólo sabe contar hasta cien, volverá a empezar una y otra vez y así pasará la noche sin molestar, desapareciendo al amanecer.

PAPARRASOLLA 48
In Castilian mythology, the name "Paparrasolla" refers to a mythological being known for threatening and silencing misbehaving children who cry. It is the Castilian counterpart of the Greek harpy.

NITUS and FALUGA 49
In Catalan mythology, Nitus are small matter, impossible to describe by their smallness, which fall into a person's ear and go to the brain. They do not kill, but are said to feed like maggots on the memory and create tiredness and forgetfulness. His female equivalent is the faluga.

MALISMO 50
Height: (M) 2'6 Feet , (F) 2'4 Feet
Weight: (M) 35 - 40 Pounds , (F) 30 - 35 Pounds
It's some sort of little cave troll from Spanish mythology

DOWSER GOBLIN - ( duende zahorí ) 51
Height: (M) 1'4 Feet , (F) 1'3 Feet
Weight: (M) 4 - 5 Pounds , (F) 3 - 4 Pounds
The dowser goblin is one of the few Pixies Cantabrian regions that is not dedicated to having fun scaring and bothering the locals. Scruffy in appearance, it is small, brown skin, with a round face, long and sharp nose, big black eyes and blond hair. His voice is hoarse, as if he were angry, but is actually very cheerful and her laugh is long and mocking. He wears a Red Guard and always go running from one side to another.

MENIÑEIRO 52
Height: (M) 6 Inches , (F) 5.14 Inches
Weight: (M) 8 - 10 Oz , (F) 7 - 9 Oz
It is a sympathetic Galician Goblin (or more correctly a trasno) determined protector of very young children (usually babies) withwhich they play and are dedicated to entertain and have fun, while the adultosno can see them (as the babies do not speak, never can say something about these tiny sers). In areas of Galicia (as in Ourense and Chantada), when a baby smile for no apparent reason it is said: "Already out here the meniñeiro".

ESCORNAU 53
The Escornau or Escornao is a monster from the folklore of Extremadura (Spain), more exactly, the legend was born near the small village of Ahigal at the north of Cáceres.
According to the legend, the creature was created by God as a punishment for the sins committed by the residents of Ahigal and is usually described as a beast with the hindquarters of a horse, the forequarters of a bull and a wild boar's head with a long and sharp horn in the front.
Lots of humans and animals became victims of the Escornau, but the beast had a special interest for the women. The legend says that when a man or an animal were attacked and killed by the escornau the creature left their bodies in the ground but, when the victim was a woman, the beast used its horn to skewer her body and then proceeded to walk around with it like a trophy.
The people of Ahigal tried to kill the beast in multiple occasions but they hadn't achieved anything, the skin of the beast was so hard that neither bullets nor the arrows were able to pass through it. Finally they realised that only God was able to stop the Escornau and they began to pray for mercy and organised processions to show their remorse.
At one of those processions was when, at the moment when the beast was going to attack some women present at the ceremony, God paralyzed the Escornau and inflated it until the animal exploded, the only remains of the creature that the explosion left was its horn which was kept as a relic on the hermitage of Ahigal, but now it's been lost for years and nobody knows where can it be.

Bú 54
The Bú were given a gigantic anthropomorphic black owl figure and large wings (cousin of the owl, which is drunk the oils ofthe churches). Reddened eyes, large as soup plates; that terror you paralyze their victims. Its beak is sharp as knives and their claws are as when traps where it is impossible to flee (he who wascaught was dead). Entered through the windows to be awake children his hiding-place, normally dark caves in Holm (Holm oak, was a sacred tree of the celtiberians). Although the figure has changed and they have local differences.
For some informants of Villanueva of them infants the "Bú" was one: "Chepada person, bloated face and feet", "a bird that resembles to the Parrot, that is hears of night in mountains, in the cragsand it was said: Calla coming Bú", "with appearance of animal-bird with face of owl".
The Grandmothers of Almedina, on closed nights, opened the windows of the rooms of levantiscos grandchildren, who refused to sleep, and a loud voice, called the "Bú" so that you attract.
In this village they gave figure of a giant owl with huge eyes.

GAUEKO 55
In Basque mythology, Gaueko is the spirit of the night. He does not allow humans to do certain works outside the house during the night. He especially punishes all those who try to show off as brave in the night, boasting of not fearing the darkness. He is considered to be a devil in some accounts, a jentil or gentilic divinity in others. In some cases he makes his presence felt as a gust of wind, as he pronounces these words: Gaua Gauekoarentzat, eguna egunezkoarentzat ("the night for Gaueko (the one of the night), the day for the one of the day"). Sometimes he appears in the shape of a cow, sometimes in that of a monster.

SORGINAK 56
Sorginak (root form: sorgin, absolutive case (singular): sorgina) are the assistants of the goddess Mari in Basque mythology. It is also the Basque name for witches or pagan priestesses (though they could also be male), being difficult to discern between the mythological and real ones.
Sometimes sorginak are confused with lamiak (similar to nymphs). Along with them, and specially with Jentilak, sorginak are said often to have built the local megaliths.
Sorginak, like other European witches, used to participate in the sabbat, called akelarre locally. These mysteries happened on Friday nights, when Mari and Sugaar are said to meet in the locally sacred cave to engender storms.


Mechagamera wrote:
True dragons for the outer planes not covered in B6 (with a second one for the Abyss).

Unfortunately, Mr. Jacobs already said that the True dragons will always come in groups of five. Given that the true dragons in B6 are called "Planar Dragons", I'm sure we are going to see dragons that will cover all the main planes in the outer sphere.

That said, what concept would you like to see for the True Dragons of B7?

I want to see constructed dragons. Dragons created using alchemy, biotechnology or something close to that. Just like the Inevitable, they would simple have some construct traits?

Or maybe humanoid like true dragons. I don't know... I'm out of good ideas for true dragons today...


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Next True Dragon ideas...

Gems(diamond, emerald, ruby, sapphire, and pearl)

Materials(bone, metal, stone, shell, and wood)

Universal concepts(light, sound, energy, mass, and gravity)

Natural concepts(life, death, nature, spirit, and body/mind)

Tech based concepts(alchemical, bio-mechanical, digital, robotic/cybernetic, and primitive/rust)


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How about Kinetic, Mesmer, Spirit, Psychic and Medium? Y'know, dragons with special abilities based on the Kineticist, Mesmerist, Spiritualist, Psychic and Medium classes, respectively?

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Making fun of proliferation of dragon types in D&D is so 1978.


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It would also be nice to have dragon species unique to each of the planets in the Golarion solar system. Basically one from Akiton, one from Castrovel, one from Verces, etc. Obviously these wouldn't be true dragons since there is a lot more then 5 planets.


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I was thinking a planet type thing.

Or maybe dragons based on celestial bodies (might be the wrong term) so like meteor dragon and planet dragons. Although Solar and Luna dragons kinda undermine this.

Also aren't force and prismatic dragons a thing pathfinder is yet to address.


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I doubt we will ever see force and prismatic dragons but you never know.

Speaking of celestial bodies, I would love a group of creatures based on the zodiac.


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Any particular reason for those doubts?
I imagine the group of 5 thing is a problem.


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I, of course, would like to see a group of dragons based on North American Horned Serpents, but I'm not sure if it would be better to make them a group of true dragons like the Imperial Dragons were, or something more akin to Linnorms and Azis.


Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:

Any particular reason for those doubts?

I imagine the group of 5 thing is a problem.

Aren't both the Force and Prismatic Dragons properties of WotC?

Also... they were epic dragons... a.k.a. unusable in 99% of games :P


Dragon78 wrote:

Next True Dragon ideas...

Gems(diamond, emerald, ruby, sapphire, and pearl)

Materials(bone, metal, stone, shell, and wood)

Universal concepts(light, sound, energy, mass, and gravity)

Natural concepts(life, death, nature, spirit, and body/mind)

Tech based concepts(alchemical, bio-mechanical, digital, robotic/cybernetic, and primitive/rust)

Hat Dragons (Brimmed, Bonnet, Caps, woven, and fancy/ceremonial)


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How about something truly vile, evil, and despicable, that we all can hate and won't mind killing. Something that doesn't cause an alignment check when a priest of Sarenrae ambushes it without warning in the middle of morning prayers. Something from the negative material plane that even they want dead. I'm talking lawyers, Republicans, and Democrats - Oh My.


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We have plenty of vile, evil, etc., we need more CN and LN.


HealboyHeal wrote:
How about something truly vile, evil, and despicable, that we all can hate and won't mind killing. Something that doesn't cause an alignment check when a priest of Sarenrae ambushes it without warning in the middle of morning prayers. Something from the negative material plane that even they want dead. I'm talking lawyers, Republicans, and Democrats - Oh My.

Lawyers and politicians are underrated.

Heck, I can even think of an AP where heroic lawyering (with the aid of some politicians) plays a huge role!


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Dragon78 wrote:
We have plenty of vile, evil, etc., we need more CN and LN.

Agreed. We all want more creatures, expansion/details of creatures in the other continents, new details on planar creatures, etc... However, it might also be interesting to have more organizations, not just monsters, that follow the LN or CN alignments. Neutral style organizations that manipulate good aligned groups/creatures and hire/manipulate evil aligned groups/creatures to accomplish their agendas could also be interesting. Bestiary 7 might not be the best place for this BUT a Bestiary type product with an alignment theme could be interesting. It would be sort of like a large Campaign Setting module but focused on LN/CN organizations and new supporting NPCs and monsters.


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"Organizations", do you mean creature groups(proteans, oni, lamia, etc.) or actual organizations like the the Hell Knights?

We could always get lawyer demons and politician demons;)


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I liked all the ideas for dragons posted by Dragon78, specially the Gems and Tech dragons, for I have them in my homebrew.

The concepts by JiCi and Durgon are also cool, specially the ones based on the occult classes and the "Meteor Dragon" (I have a meteor dragon in my setting, but he isn't a true dragon; more like a powerful dragon akin to the Shen).

Wannabe Demon Lord brought up an idea that I have been hoping to see for a long time now. NEW DRAGON CATEGORIES. Like Linnorms and Azis, they wouldn't be limited to five, so we could probably insert concepts like Arcane dragons for all the arcane schools and the dragons from each planet as well. I have been designing the Celestial Wyrms based on the illustrations I will be mentioning in the post bellow this one.

But, the concept I liked the must was the one by Davia D, the powerful and elegant Hat Dragons (totally a joke). Apsu's Herald wears spectacles, than why not wearing a hat?

OBS: Contract Devils are already a perfect lawyer creature representation. I mean, look at Hell Rebels and Mephistopheles himself.


Dragon78 wrote:
Speaking of celestial bodies, I would love a group of creatures based on the zodiac.

Than, Dragon78, I know something WE would LOVE to see in a bestiary. Our zodiac cousins (Art by the same artist that illustrated the esoteric dragons).

You can see this group and the others in this link here. I'm in love with this dragons, as they are so alive and beautifully illustrated. My favorite are the ones from 2014 and 2016. I have been trying to stat them up for my homebrew... For a long time now... I call them Celestial Wyrms, as in celestial bodies and great wyrm dragons. They wouldn't fit as true dragons, but in a new dragon category of their own. All of them are CR 21-25.

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