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I now what the rules say, under the brew potion feat, concerning making choices at the time of brewing. Potions of Lesser Restoration should be tagged with an ability score. (Potion of lesser restoration (constitution) )But they're often not. In the wild and on chronicle sheets, you'll find plenty of examples of untagged potions.
Has there been a campaign clarification about hand waving that requirement? I'll be honest, I didn't know it existed until earlier this week, and I'm going to have to go back now and change my characters' inventory to include tags.
I've also never seen it enforced. So I'm curious. Is this a requirement i should be using?
Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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It might be an idea to expand this rule "For the sake of simplicity, there is no difference between an arcane, divine, or psychic scroll or wand. Thus a bard and cleric may both use the same scroll of cure moderate wounds." to cover things like potions of restoration and when you chose what casting decisions are made.
I am not saying it is a *good* idea. Just saying it is an idea.
Discussion?
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Here's a ruling for you.
Lesser restoration stat is chosen by the recipient rather than the caster as is the choice to remove any magical effects reducing ability scores or to cure ability damage.
Therefore it doesn't need to be pre-assigned by brew potion.
I think that neatly solves everything, right?
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Here's a ruling for you.
Lesser restoration stat is chosen by the recipient rather than the caster as is the choice to remove any magical effects reducing ability scores or to cure ability damage.
Therefore it doesn't need to be pre-assigned by brew potion.
I think that neatly solves everything, right?
That's certainly a great point of view. How do you support that ruling? The pregen Yoon has a potion of lesser restoration (strength), which is what put me onto this in the first place. But I'd love to think it was the way you suggest!
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It might be an idea to expand this rule "For the sake of simplicity, there is no difference between an arcane, divine, or psychic scroll or wand. Thus a bard and cleric may both use the same scroll of cure moderate wounds." to cover things like potions of restoration and when you chose what casting decisions are made.
I am not saying it is a *good* idea. Just saying it is an idea.
Discussion?
This is what I'd like to see. In creating such a clarification, one would need to decide whether to include all potions or just this one. Resist energy would get a lot more powerful. (Every Resist Energy potion I've ever seen was tagged.)
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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I suspect the least consistent explanation is correct: designers didn't mean to pin down Lesser Restoration potions in the same way that they do usually pin down Resist Energy potions.
In practice I'd say that any found potion without an explicit ability tag is "flexible". Does that mean players can buy flexible potions? I dunno. They appear on quite a few chronicle sheets...
Actually, I rarely see LR potions bought. Which is weird cuz the speedup is a real asset. Most of the time when I see LR consumables that people bought, it's partially charged wands. Money over speed? Flexibility over speed?
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My barbarian will be picking up LR potions after this past weekend, that's for sure.
In the meantime, it's a GM call on what stat untagged potions are keyed to when they are found.
But will you be buying them tagged or untagged?
I'm kinda thinking I'm not going to do anything different right now for others. Like, I'm not going to be auditing anyone's ITS and saying "you need to decide what those options are keyed before we start."
But as for myself, I'll be choosing stats! :)
Lesser restoration dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores or cures 1d4 points of temporary ability damage to one of the subject's ability scores.
Hmm, the spell doesn't say that the caster chooses which of the scores is cured, which could possibly mean that it just cures a random damaged score.
I'd be up for that mostly because that'd be kind of neat and wouldn't have to involve any retconning for every previous instance of potions of lesser restoration that didn't state the score before Yoon's, though I could see having to choose the score being an entirely reasonable interpretation and just assuming if its not stated it targets con damage or something.
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If it randomly picks one of the damaged scores, that's good enough for me. It does occasionally happen that that multiple scores get damaged and you care more about one than the other, but if you wanted fine-grained control, maybe potions aren't the way.
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If the recipient has a magical effect or temporary ability damage reducing one of his ability scores, the spell cures that ability score. I don't see that the caster needs to know which ability score needs curing, so a potion-brewer doesn't need to specify either.
The drinker counts as the caster of the spell and controls the effect, but doesn't get to make any decisions about the spell. I tend to agree that a choice between two or more damaged ability scores would be random.
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My barbarian will be picking up LR potions after this past weekend, that's for sure.
In the meantime, it's a GM call on what stat untagged potions are keyed to when they are found.
Whatever for? :)
I am of the opinion that we could look into extending flexibility into potions. As a similar note, I have very rarely seen people tag their scrolls of plane shift, which also technically needs to be chosen when made (since its decision is made based off of the utilized focus component).
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As far as I can see, that rule does not apply to lesser restoration.
Lesser restoration dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores or cures 1d4 points of temporary ability damage to one of the subject's ability scores. It also eliminates any fatigue suffered by the character, and improves an exhausted condition to fatigued. It does not restore permanent ability drain.
As compared to resist energy: This abjuration grants a creature limited protection from damage of whichever one of five energy types you select: acid, cold, electricity, fire, or sonic.
LR does not include any select language, whereas RE does.
As far as I can see, that rule does not apply to lesser restoration.
Lesser restoration dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores or cures 1d4 points of temporary ability damage to one of the subject's ability scores. It also eliminates any fatigue suffered by the character, and improves an exhausted condition to fatigued. It does not restore permanent ability drain.
As compared to resist energy: This abjuration grants a creature limited protection from damage of whichever one of five energy types you select: acid, cold, electricity, fire, or sonic.
LR does not include any select language, whereas RE does.
I read the core spell and this is correct.