|
I have...over the last few weeks..seen reference after reference to Hillary being power-hungry. Why is it no one ever labels Trump the same way? Oh that's right...ambition is only okay for dudes.
Or maybe she pretends that she is not power-hungry when she sure is: you do not run for POTUS without a desire for power. Doubly so if you saw your soulmate being POTUS and you are not satisfied with the results and want to do it yourself
While Trump does not pretend. He wears his hunger for power like a neon sign
But then I do not see being power-hungry as a bad thing for a POTUS candidate. I am more worried about the self-limits and restrictions they will have when they get that power. And Trump has none
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Like JFK's escapades, Bill's aren't as "secret" (at least a fair number of them) as you make out. A number of friends and staff members were colluding in his behavior in each instance. And later, the security detail when he was president.
I said nothing about secrecy. I said that no one who isn't in the marriage knows what goes on in their marriage, and I stand by that statement.
Whatever aspersions you want to cast on Ms. Clinton for her husband's infidelity is your own freaking problem.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
By the way, since we've been discussing Assange lately, I think it's this kind of stunt that makes people neither trust nor like him.
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
By the way, since we've been discussing Assange lately, I think it's this kind of stunt that makes people neither trust nor like him.
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA
By the way, since we've been discussing Assange lately, I think it's this kind of stunt that makes people neither trust nor like him.He seems to be learning from Trump.
This is what he was afraid he'd be assassinated over?
Anything he'd release today would give her a month to recover from it. Two weeks from now would be a better choice if what he has is a grenade instead of a nuke.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
She's not from a culture that would keep her trapped in such a relationship.The "culture" she's from would very much do so.
QFT
Would you end your career for the rest of your life to divorce someone?
That's not a choice a male politician has to make.
That is a choice a female politician has to make.Ronald Reagan was the first (and so far only) divorced US president. Until quite recently men were having to make the same decision.
Trump, as is his wont, is blowing that convention off the books. Pretty much any sexual behavior is now acceptable for a male candidate.
For a republican candidate, because they're the ones with real family values.
It's not just the president. Newt's managed to be the family values advocate and speaker of the house despite being on wife number 3.
Traditional marriage! you know. Like Abraham...
"Trump backers realize"...
well THERE's an oxymoron...
|
|
Am I understanding Quark Blast right? Because the argument seems to be "I would not behave the way Hillary has were I in similar circumstances, therefore she's in it [her marriage] for power." Surely I'm missing something?
Also, sticking it to Clinton by voting for the guy who has repeatedly asked his supporters to vote for Clinton seems...strange.
Edited for clarity
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Also, sticking it to Clinton by voting for the guy who has repeatedly asked his supporters to vote for Clinton seems...strange.
I don't think it's that strange. It's fairly simple once you realize that most Sanders supporters don't actually support Sanders. They're not pro-Sanders, but simply anti-establishment, and Sanders was really the only practical alternative.
They don't actually like Sanders' policies, since he has none. They don't actually support Sanders' political judgment, since they're ignoring what he is actually doing to push his agenda through. They just want to see the Democratic party leadership go down in flames, whether there is anything to replace it with or not, because they think that their agendas will magically be implemented by the liberalism faeries if there's no one left in Congress to advocate for a left-of-center policy.
|
|
I don't think it's that strange. It's fairly simple once you realize that most Sanders supporters don't actually support Sanders. They're not pro-Sanders, but simply anti-establishment, and Sanders was really the only practical alternative.
That's my assessment as well, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Saying "that's strange" is less hostile and provocative that "that's stupidly contrarian".
*knows Trump will probably start WWIII by declaring war on North Korea. "Accidently" hits Salt Lake City and Las Vegas* *declares he needs a map* *starts WWIV by trying to take over Iceland*The war never ended both sides stopped trying to attack.
The two Koreas have been in a state of extended cease-fire. What was signed, was nothing more than an armistice, not a resolution of conflict.
|
The two Koreas have been in a state of extended cease-fire. What was signed, was nothing more than an armistice, not a resolution oof conflict.*knows Trump will probably start WWIII by declaring war on North Korea. "Accidently" hits Salt Lake City and Las Vegas* *declares he needs a map* *starts WWIV by trying to take over Iceland*The war never ended both sides stopped trying to attack.
You seem to agree with me. Although the North lobs artillary on the south from time to time...to time.
You seem to agree with me. Although the North lobs artillary on the south from time to time...to time.The two Koreas have been in a state of extended cease-fire. What was signed, was nothing more than an armistice, not a resolution oof conflict.*knows Trump will probably start WWIII by declaring war on North Korea. "Accidently" hits Salt Lake City and Las Vegas* *declares he needs a map* *starts WWIV by trying to take over Iceland*The war never ended both sides stopped trying to attack.
The things that go on in the DMZ make such activity rather mundane by comparison. The mega loudspeakers for propaganda... the fake cities..
|
|
I don't see any reason to think the Republicans would suddenly grow a spine AFTER Trump got elected. The vast majority of them have been all to happy to roll over for him since he's got the nod.
Trump won the nomination, what do you expect would happen. It wouldn't even take a majority of (R) senators to remove him. Just enough to hit 2/3 with the democrat voting bloc.
|
|
| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
It's kind of like a little kid being told by his parents that they will be having either vegetable stew or liver and onions for dinner, and they are going to let the kid choose which. The kid can take or leave veggie stew but he HATES liver and onions with a passion, and would sooner eat broken glass.
The kid tells his parents what he really wants is pizza. Sorry, they say, not tonight - we are having vegetable stew or liver and onions, those are your two choices. If you don't want to pick, we'll decide and you'll just eat what we make.
Instead of picking the veggie soup, which he at least can tolerate, and therefore eliminate the possibility of being forced to eat something he absolutely despises, the kid decides to stick to his (somewhat naive) guns and proudly declares that he votes for pizza anyway!
The kid of course does not get pizza and might end up being forced to choke down something truly heinous.
How smart was the kid?
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
I don't see any reason to think the Republicans would suddenly grow a spine AFTER Trump got elected. The vast majority of them have been all to happy to roll over for him since he's got the nod.Trump won the nomination, what do you expect would happen. It wouldn't even take a majority of (R) senators to remove him. Just enough to hit 2/3 with the democrat voting bloc.
You are dreaming if you think they would ever admit their party made that huge a mistake.
|
|
You are dreaming if you think they would ever admit their party made that huge a mistake.I don't see any reason to think the Republicans would suddenly grow a spine AFTER Trump got elected. The vast majority of them have been all to happy to roll over for him since he's got the nod.Trump won the nomination, what do you expect would happen. It wouldn't even take a majority of (R) senators to remove him. Just enough to hit 2/3 with the democrat voting bloc.
View it anyway you like. The point I was referring to is Trump has far less freedom (if elected) than has been stated. Obama can freely take action as his party rides his wake and will block legislative countermeasures. That is not a likely scenario om the right for those who enjoy their privaleged life and feel Trump may disturb it.
Which is the single reason I prefer Trump, he may (even a small chance) open up the daylight on the normal course of politics. That has Zero chance with Hillary, who lives and breathes the favors and kickbacks in the present system.
You are dreaming if you think they would ever admit their party made that huge a mistake.I don't see any reason to think the Republicans would suddenly grow a spine AFTER Trump got elected. The vast majority of them have been all to happy to roll over for him since he's got the nod.Trump won the nomination, what do you expect would happen. It wouldn't even take a majority of (R) senators to remove him. Just enough to hit 2/3 with the democrat voting bloc.View it anyway you like. The point I was referring to is Trump has far less freedom (if elected) than has been stated. Obama can freely take action as his party rides his wake and will block legislative countermeasures. That is not a likely scenario om the right for those who enjoy their privaleged life and feel Trump may disturb it.
Which is the single reason I prefer Trump, he may (even a small chance) open up the daylight on the normal course of politics. That has Zero chance with Hillary, who lives and breathes the favors and kickbacks in the present system.
Yup. Dreaming.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
You are dreaming if you think they would ever admit their party made that huge a mistake.I don't see any reason to think the Republicans would suddenly grow a spine AFTER Trump got elected. The vast majority of them have been all to happy to roll over for him since he's got the nod.Trump won the nomination, what do you expect would happen. It wouldn't even take a majority of (R) senators to remove him. Just enough to hit 2/3 with the democrat voting bloc.View it anyway you like. The point I was referring to is Trump has far less freedom (if elected) than has been stated. Obama can freely take action as his party rides his wake and will block legislative countermeasures. That is not a likely scenario om the right for those who enjoy their privaleged life and feel Trump may disturb it.
Which is the single reason I prefer Trump, he may (even a small chance) open up the daylight on the normal course of politics. That has Zero chance with Hillary, who lives and breathes the favors and kickbacks in the present system.
I don't think Trump will have far less or far more freedom (whatever that means) than Clinton if elected President, I think Trump will misuse the power of office in the worst way possible.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Am I understanding Quark Blast right? Because the argument seems to be "I would not behave the way Hillary has were I in similar circumstances, therefore she's in it [her marriage] for power." Surely I'm missing something?
Not that I can tell...believe it or not.
| 4 people marked this as a favorite. |
In discussion of what Trump will or won't be allowed to do by his "fellow" republicans, everyone seems to forget that Trump has a fairly fanatical and adoring base of red state voters. If the Republicans in office get uppity and try to block his moves or..even worse...try to impeach him, what makes you think he won't turn that base against them? Trump doesn't give a crap about the party, and his earlier reluctance to even support folks up for re-election makes me think he would actively use those voters against him.
I just don't see any Republicans from red state strongholds not bending the knee to Trump. They have all so far been afraid to speak out for fear of ticking off the base, and with 2018 elections in the not too distant future they are not going to start after the election.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
On the subject of Wikileaks, let's not forget one of their most recent stunts: Outting gay people and people with HIV, among other groups, in Saudi Arabia.
I'd like there to be a different organization with similar goals but different management. Barring that, though, I think we'd all be better off if Wikileaks simply did not exist.
Anyone see any possible reason why Trump likes Putin that does not involve Putin paying his presidential campaign? I mean, actually saying you like Putin should cost you quite a few votes in the race, no?
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Hulk as moderator... yeah I dare someone to interrupt.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
You never THROW the ball when playing football. That is against the rules. You KICK the ball, you know, with your FOOT. FOOT-BALL.Murican Football, Sissyl.
You mean SOCCER? The idiocy of calling a sport Football when only two people are allowed to kick it is staggering.
| 4 people marked this as a favorite. |
RE: Donald Trump: I don't want to release my taxes, I'm just that smart
NYT does part of it for him
RE: Donald Trump on why he might not have been paying taxes, "I'm just smarter than everyone else.
People don't like that.
RE: Eric Trump claims his father "paid enormous amounts of taxes"
Hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha hahahahaha.
| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
Laughter is the best medicine.
|
|
(Far too many references)
Replying to this
I don't think Trump will have far less or far more freedom (whatever that means) than Clinton if elected President, I think Trump will misuse the power of office in the worst way possible.
My statement is vs. the current president. Obama is not blocked by the legislature, who can (with a 60% vote in the senate & house) ignore him completely, undo anything done, remove the money from any activity they do not authorize, remove any appointments, etc.
Thats what it means. The fiction that Trump can start WW3, become a dictator, etc. is a ridiculous assertion.
My view is he will have a limited role in govornment. His focus will more likely be to more effectively review the executive branch and start to remove the excesses of more than a century of mismanagement.
I feel like it's important to note that Trump's on the record as basically being a hands-off kind of guy. He wants to have the 'big ideas', but leave the actual execution of things to others.
...Hence basically offering his VP control of Foreign and Domestic policy, while never actually stating what he's going to do as President, other than the nebulous "make America great again" statement.
Pence isn't helping matters, given how he basically refused to answer questions during the debate.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Trump doesn't want to start world war 3, he wants to rob the treasury blind and seek asylum in Russia where he can spend the rest of his days (and money) living it up and banging X-Art models.
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
(Far too many references)
Replying to this
I don't think Trump will have far less or far more freedom (whatever that means) than Clinton if elected President, I think Trump will misuse the power of office in the worst way possible.My statement is vs. the current president. Obama is not blocked by the legislature, who can (with a 60% vote in the senate & house) ignore him completely, undo anything done, remove the money from any activity they do not authorize, remove any appointments, etc.
Thats what it means. The fiction that Trump can start WW3, become a dictator, etc. is a ridiculous assertion.
My view is he will have a limited role in govornment. His focus will more likely be to more effectively review the executive branch and start to remove the excesses of more than a century of mismanagement.
I added quote tags for clarity's sake, hope you don't mind.
I didn't say start WW3 or become a dictator, I said misuse the power of office in the worst way possible. "Possible" doesn't equate to the nightmare scenarios you mentioned, it means what's actually possible. I don't think Trump understands the function of the office of the President well enough to do anything but abuse it.
Do you honestly believe Trump has displayed the patience and analytical ability required effectively review presidential overreach?
| 3 people marked this as a favorite. |
If you follow the post line upwards, you will see to what I am referring. You may haved joined in at the end of that topic and missed it.
Regarding your topic
Trump has displayed the ability to run a sizable company, so yes.
Considering he has been bought out of almost every company he's ever had a Board Position on so that the board could accept the losses he'd forced on them and move forward to actually making money...
Not so much.
He's a conman, a shyster. He's been gaming every system for so long he's forgotten it's not a game for the people he ruins.
|
| 1 person marked this as a favorite. |
Trump's business is marketing his brand, which is mighty convenient when things he puts his name on collapse. Not exactly confidence inspiring for America. Double so if he is going to leave us in the hands of that social conservative Pence when it comes to policy.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
Agreed. I'd like someone who makes the claim that Trump is a successful business man point out which of his businesses support that claim.
As it happens, the New York Times addressed that question this morning.
Of the roughly 60 endeavors started or promoted by Mr. Trump during the period analyzed, [roughly one] third, while sometimes encountering strife, generally met expectations — notably the television show “The Apprentice” and the purchases of numerous golf courses, including properties near Philadelphia and in the Hudson Valley.
Looking specifically at real estate, 7 projects of 27 were successful, specifically his Palm Beach home, the Trump Parc Stamford, Miami's Doral Hotel, the Trump Towers Mall Istanbul, Trump Towers Pune (India), Trump International Realty, and Trump Vineyard Estate. Of course, this also implies that 20 were not successful (the NYT describes 12 as "didn't work out" and 8 as "had problems").
8 of 14 of his golf ventures "measured up," as did 5 of 13 of his media ventures, as did one of his 7 consumer goods ventures (the Trump Signature Collection of menswear).