CD Harsk examining at the start AND end of the turn


Rules Questions and Gameplay Discussion

Silver Crusade

The power text of the Class Deck Harsk is following: "At the ([ ] start or) end of the your turn, you may examine the top card of your location deck."

If I have the "[x] start or" box checked, can I examine a card at the start of my turn, move and then examine a card at the end of my turn. Normally you can use an ability, like Harsk's "recharge the weapon instead of discarding" as many times as you like, but my question comes because the word "or". The power says that you examine at the start OR at the end of a turn.

But not both?

Well, the rulebook says "Cards Don't Have Memories." So even if it would be this OR that, the card would not remember that the ability is already used.

So?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

You can do both. (This is a place where the English language lets us down a bit. We try to avoid "and/or" constructions, and if we had just said "and," then people would ask if they were allowed to do it at the end of the turn if they hadn't done it at the start. So yes, going with "or" here relies on the "cards don't have memories" rule: by the time you get to the end of the turn, the card doesn't remember--or therefore care--what you did at the start of the turn.)


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The top ten greatest ideas of this game (thanks Mike, Vic and others):

10- I buy beer and pizza if someone can play a Blessing of Pharasma right NOW
9- Adventure, scenario and locations specific rules
8- Character specific powers
7- Forget about hit points, roll dice and recharge cards
6- No one can make your check for you
5- A deck is a deck, a hand is a hand, a card is a card, a skill is a skill, a check is a check ... and a die is a die
4- Cards don't go on a pile waiting for other cards to be resolved
3- Cards have no memory
2- Cards do what they say

And 1 :

- Cards don't do what they don't say

Designer

Oh wow, those 'or' powers are a lot stronger than I had thought! English is weird, and the default of or to be exclusive-or makes it hard to convey non-exclusive-or. "And/or" might carry the meaning but is awkward looking.


Nice timing, I was just about to ask for a clarification on this myself. I was pretty sure you could do both.


Frencois wrote:

The top ten greatest ideas of this game (thanks Mike, Vic and others):

4- Cards don't go on a pile waiting for other cards to be resolved

Is it sad that that is my least favorite part of the game? I love the stack. It's just so...logical. To me, at least. To someone who didn't spend years coding it's probably really annoying.

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