Kickstarter for the Pathfinder Game Masters Gearbox. A game mastery aid.


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There is the link for the kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/346823433/pathfinder-game-masters-gear box

The gearbox consists of monster,trap, spell and feat cards. As well at 36 hard dry erase tiles. Please share.

Thanks all !!!


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I made a new thread and fix the link. can a moderator delete this thread please ? Thanks


The Game Masters Gearbox

Liberty's Edge

good luck..
Not anything I am interested but I still wish you luck.


JPSTOD wrote:

good luck..

Not anything I am interested but I still wish you luck.

Thanks !


Is that artwork on the dungeon tiles lifted from paizo flip mats?


BigDTBone wrote:
Is that artwork on the dungeon tiles lifted from paizo flip mats?

Just to show as a preview and for play testing in person. I have an artist currently designing 12 different terrain type. My biggest cost is the art; each piece cost me around 30 dollars. So 320 monsters, 200 feats, gear...and so on.

Liberty's Edge

Lastoutkast wrote:
BigDTBone wrote:
Is that artwork on the dungeon tiles lifted from paizo flip mats?
Just to show as a preview and for play testing in person. I have an artist currently designing 12 different terrain type. My biggest cost is the art; each piece cost me around 30 dollars. So 320 monsters, 200 feats, gear...and so on.

Pretty sure using Paizo's art (i.e their copyrighted property), especially on a product you are trying to sell (via Kickstarter), is a big no-no ...

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

I don't believe it is for sale. Use as a preview is probably not kosher either, but IANAL.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I don't believe it is for sale. Use as a preview is probably not kosher either, but IANAL.

Correct, it was only for demonstration. The rest of the kickstart are designs and and art that I have commissioned.


Marc Radle wrote:
Lastoutkast wrote:
BigDTBone wrote:
Is that artwork on the dungeon tiles lifted from paizo flip mats?
Just to show as a preview and for play testing in person. I have an artist currently designing 12 different terrain type. My biggest cost is the art; each piece cost me around 30 dollars. So 320 monsters, 200 feats, gear...and so on.
Pretty sure using Paizo's art (i.e their copyrighted property), especially on a product you are trying to sell (via Kickstarter), is a big no-no ...

That was my thought as well.


Lastoutkast

Are you Charlie, the project organizer?

If you are, I have a few questions.


J4RH34D wrote:

Lastoutkast

Are you Charlie, the project organizer?

If you are, I have a few questions.

I am, ask away.


Are the cards laminated? What stock are they on? The rewards mention "the game", do you instead mean the pack with all the goodies?

A suggestion, You are wasting a full line of space on the back of the monster cards. You could have the CR, XP, alignment, and size all on the top line. Or rather CR and XP

Liberty's Edge

Please don't take this the wrong way, but ... in addition to swiping the map art from Paizo for your demo (which you don't mention anywhere in your Kickstarter) so it really looks like that is the quality of the map art folks would get, instead of showing what the tiles will ACTUALLY look like ... isn't this basically the same as the 5" × 8" map tiles Paizo produces in their various Pathfinder Map Packs


Marc, from what I can tell they will be 4x4 plain tiles.
At least thats what it looks like to me. He should also make it clear on the campaign page that the tiles are not what the final product will actually be.


Marc Radle wrote:
Please don't take this the wrong way, but ... in addition to swiping the map art from Paizo for your demo (which you don't mention anywhere in your Kickstarter) so it really looks like that is the quality of the map art folks would get, instead of showing what the tiles will ACTUALLY look like ... isn't this basically the same as the 5" × 8" map tiles Paizo produces in their various Pathfinder Map Packs

If I understand correctly it isn't, because he has other things in the package like pregen PC/NPCs, monster cards, and the map tiles are mag backed. It is still sort of strange that he chose to demo it with the map packs rather than use like gaming paper as a stand in.

Shadow Lodge

Well, Paizo sold 3.5 houserules on the quality of the art...


TOZ wrote:
Well, Paizo sold 3.5 houserules on the quality of the art...

Fair, I can see why he chose to use the flip map art because they are beautiful. I'm actually surprised at the audacity of doing it without acknowledgement.


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BigDTBone wrote:
TOZ wrote:
Well, Paizo sold 3.5 houserules on the quality of the art...
Fair, I can see why he chose to use the flip map art because they are beautiful. I'm actually surprised at the audacity of doing it without acknowledgement.

Audacity fixed, I updated the page. Thanks for the heads up. :)


Lastoutkast, thanks for putting that up there, and it is right under the video so it is nice and clear. It is great that you are responding to feedback.
Still curious about my questions up thread though :)


J4RH34D wrote:

Lastoutkast, thanks for putting that up there, and it is right under the video so it is nice and clear. It is great that you are responding to feedback.

Still curious about my questions up thread though :)

Thanks, doing my best to keep up with all of it :)

that info is closer to the bottom of the page past the demo pictures.


Is it really just $25 for everything or am I not understanding something?


Bob_Loblaw wrote:
Is it really just $25 for everything or am I not understanding something?

yes, 25 for everything.


Thanks Lastoutkast

You are responding to feedback almost instantly which is great.

I know you earlier said that your largest expense would be the art.
If the goal is not met what are the chances you could do an artless version?


I'll probably back this then. I haven't fully decided yet. Nothing to do with your product. I am not really in a place to buy anything I don't explicitly need.


J4RH34D wrote:

Thanks Lastoutkast

You are responding to feedback almost instantly which is great.

I know you earlier said that your largest expense would be the art.
If the goal is not met what are the chances you could do an artless version?

Thanks, I'm trying :)

Fairly low. If I didn't have to have art I could make it now, the thing is I want to make something that welcomes new players and makes the game faster for veteran players. New players love art more than they want to read a 360 page book. But if there is an outcry for it I'd be more than happy to put one out.


Bob_Loblaw wrote:
I'll probably back this then. I haven't fully decided yet. Nothing to do with your product. I am not really in a place to buy anything I don't explicitly need.

Thank you, I appreciate your interest.


Will the tiles be fairly compatible with WotC Dungeon Tiles? Meaning, are they of about the same thickness?

Note: I understand the danger of using Dry Erase compatible (your product) next to a Non-Dry Erase product. (Dungeon Tiles), but is your goal to make them similar?


Duncan & Dragons wrote:

Will the tiles be fairly compatible with WotC Dungeon Tiles? Meaning, are they of about the same thickness?

Note: I understand the danger of using Dry Erase compatible (your product) next to a Non-Dry Erase product. (Dungeon Tiles), but is your goal to make them similar?

There a little thicker.

Not really, I'm going for quick and modular vs. a super detailed dungeon but I do plan on putting in a few 1"x1",2"x2",3"x1",4"x1" long tiles to make better pathways.


J4RH34D wrote:

Thanks Lastoutkast

You are responding to feedback almost instantly which is great.

I know you earlier said that your largest expense would be the art.
If the goal is not met what are the chances you could do an artless version?

I'm going to add a pdf version of the aid due to your suggestion. So thank you :)


The addition of the extra tiers is fantastic. I hope it makes more people donate


J4RH34D wrote:
The addition of the extra tiers is fantastic. I hope it makes more people donate

Thanks me too. Trying to come up with a no art price point.


Perhaps 15$ for a no art version?


J4RH34D wrote:
Perhaps 15$ for a no art version?

Printed ? with or without tiles ?


I would think no art so no tiles either, simply the cards. Also black and white printing
Depends on how much the printing will cost you though

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