Toxitician- what / how to dip


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Grand Lodge

In my endeavors to build a Psychokineticist, which people shot down as being bad archetype, someone joking stated "Make a Grippli Mesmerist" as bad reference to the obvious.

That said, I have a grippli PFS-boon with no idea what to build with it. That bad joke got me to thinking about another "bad archetype" i think could work- the Toxitician.

I'm pretty damned dedicated to trying to make this character work, so the question is- what classes would support a toxitician's tactics.
A Snakebite Striker's sneak attack could help, but I'm fairly open to options.

Either dipping at least 3 lvls of Toxitician into another class; or dip of a supporting class.

I'm also partially interested in bleeding over into the Umbral Summoner archetype, since they do apparently stack.

I'm looking to possibly make this idea workable; naysayers aren't welcome. Help me to make this work; don't destroy my dreams.


Grippli is my favourite race. I always wanted to make a chamaleonic bogborn granadier to shot toxic bombs with huge stealth modifiers. Or and inquisitor with animal domain or hunter to mount a giant frog and go croaking everywhere.

Toxitician do lots of touch attacks with slide of hands checks... Maybe you are interested in using ranged touch attacks with your tongue

Take princely and toxic skin as alternate racial traits. Very tematic for you.
Rour shadow allies can protect you while you are making touch attacks...
And that's all...

And for dipping, erm... The archetype is focused on injections which works with a standard action (touch attack). Injections are not poisons as well, neither magic which can be triggered throug a store weapon. It is a complicated archetype.

Grand Lodge

I know it's a complicated archetype; i know why people hate it.

The how "melee touch attack to inject" schtick is why i'm looking for a possible dippable class.
Swashbuckler and Skald are my two top choices, with a Bounty Hunter Slayer a distant third.

Both Swashbuckler and Skald allow me to use my purposefully high Cha for other things, especially if i do go Umbral Summoner- in which case, i lose all psychic spell casting abilities.

Stick enemies with my Injection, summon my shadow minions, [decrease their will saves against disbelieving them], use my Rage Song to empower my shadow minions.

Anyone else want to chime in, and dispense with the advice?
The Toxitician isn't a bad archetype as the consensus lets on- multiple injections vs lone target of base Mesmerist.


The shadow minions don't look like they age well; the summon level advances as a 2/3 caster rather than a full caster. With a dip of course they'd be lower level than that.

Maybe a ninja dip to turn invisible after injecting someone? 2 levels is painful but possible IMO. You also get poison use (with poisons other than your natural one) which should be in theme.

Grand Lodge

Considering the Shadow Minions last minutes per level, and i can use the ability several times a day- they are expendable.

For a PFS character, i'll only get as high as SMIV if i stay just Mesmerist.

The ninja is a curious class to look into.

So far, my idea with this character is either <Dip 1/2>/Mesmerist X; or
Ninja 2/Mesmerist 3/Sandman (Bard)X for spell stealing/sneak fun times.

Dark Archive

Sorry for the necro.. but im in the same boat.. May even do wayang.. looking at the rouge "Vexing Dodger" for Limb Climber. Something about climbing up the bad guy and stabbing him in the neck with a syringe (thematic only.. deliver touch attack).

Grand Lodge

Mr.Nightray wrote:

Sorry for the necro.. but im in the same boat.. May even do wayang.. looking at the rouge "Vexing Dodger" for Limb Climber. Something about climbing up the bad guy and stabbing him in the neck with a syringe (thematic only.. deliver touch attack).

The good thing about multiclassing with the Rogue is the "Rogue tricks" would work with Mesmerist "stare tricks".

Too bad the Bomber talent isn't viable for the Unchained Rogue. stick a few people, when they're wondering what they were stuck with, toss a bomb, and get the bonus damage with the Painful Injections.

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