lets talk about spells that has many layers?


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by layers i mean spells that have a lesser normal and greater to it. do i have to learn that spell at each stage or do i just get it. like cure light wounds i have it but i just gained a new level where i can get a new spell and i chose cure moderate wounds. but when you go to look up both the spells are grouped together on the d20pfsrd site its the only place i can look up the information.


Each stage unless they are free like Oracle.
What class?
Clerics learn all spells on list.


Psychic has an exception for undercast spells, but yeah. That's one of the big reasons behind being able to switch out your spells known- replacing a spell that you have a better version of now.


alchemist and summoner each have a spell like that. but i am playing an alchemist.


zainale wrote:

alchemist and summoner each have a spell like that. but i am playing an alchemist.

Summoner has a spell-like ability like that. It does not have a spell like that.


If you are player a spontaneous caster who has limited spells known, then yes you have to learn each individual level of spell even if the spell has basically the same effect or is within a family of spells.

Psychics have a specific exception that allows them to undercast.

This is also why most spontaneous caster classes also get the ability to retrain spells known as they level up to get rid of lower level versions of spells they intend to cast and instead fill those spell known slots on more utility spells.


evolution surge.


Claxon wrote:
If you are player a spontaneous caster who has limited spells known, then yes you have to learn each individual level of spell even if the spell has basically the same effect or is within a family of spells.

I am not sure what an alchemist is considered.


zainale wrote:
Claxon wrote:
If you are player a spontaneous caster who has limited spells known, then yes you have to learn each individual level of spell even if the spell has basically the same effect or is within a family of spells.
I am not sure what an alchemist is considered.

Technically alchemists aren't spell casters.

But since you have a formulae book you are closer to a wizard which is a prepared (and not spontaneous) spellcaster.

You don't have problems with being able to learn the higher level version of spells aside from the minor gold cost of placing the formulae in your book.

So yes, your alchemist has to acquire each level of a spell individually (though you do automatically acquire 1 new formulae for free at each level). You can learn these formulae from a wizard's spell book or from a scroll containing a spell that is also on your formulae list.

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