Natural Attacks with Elemental Riders (Monstrous Humanoid)


Rules Questions


So, I am designing a spreadsheet that has all the Monstrous Humanoid forms and what bonuses they grant you for each spell. I think I have everything figured out, but a few things escape me. Mostly what to do when a natural attack has riders that don't come from a specific source. For my example I will use the Lamia-Kin Hungerer found here: http://archivesofnethys.com/MonsterDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Hungerer

From my understanding, I am a medium creature and use Monstrous Physique 3, I transform into the Hungerer, a huge sized creature. Right off the bat I gain +6 Str, -4 Dex, and +6 Natural Armor from the spell, I because of the size difference I get -2 AC, -2 Attack, +2 CMB, and +2 CMD. I then go to the Hungerer and dig for the data I get there.

So, Darkvision 90 (Limited to 60 by the spell), Low-Light Vision, Base Speed = 10, No Fly Speed because that is from a constant spell-like ability and not actually provided by the creature, and then finally natural attacks. The creature's attack block reads like so: bite +29 (2d8+10/19–20/×4 plus 2d6 acid damage and 2 Wisdom drain), 2 claws +29 (1d8+10 plus 2 Wisdom drain).

I know I remove the Wisdom drain because that is from a special ability that is not listed in the spell description. What I don't know is if I should remove the acid damage from the bite, because I cannot find an ability that grants it. To me it looks like it is just part of it's attack. So, out of the two options what should I use?

Bite(2d8+2d6(acid damage)

or

Bite(2d8)


jimibones83 wrote:
I find it funny that pazio can employ someone to sift through comments, arbitrarily deciding which aggressive comments are passive enough to keep, but they can't pay someone to do product support

From what I understand they don't answer a ton of questions about rules because they don't want to deal with people getting into a he said she said situation? I don't know, it's one of the negatives of having such a massive system, it's hard to account for a lot of niche rules.

Edit) It appears as if I am replying to a comment that doesn't exist anymore.

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