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Nope, although that's a good idea.


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Now done with Season 4 in my "Recurring characters, concepts, & locations" project for PathfinderWiki.

On a side note, I am also including which Pathfinder Map Packs and Flip Mats are used for every scenario.

Any other useful information I could add to the product pages?

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This has been wonderful so far!

Hmm


Yay, I've finished Season 5 of my "Recurring characters, concepts, & locations" project for PathfinderWiki. You can now find everything cross-referenced up to 5-99 "The Paths We Choose". I seem to speeding up, having completed this season in just two weeks, so here's hoping to have Season 6 finished by the end of the first week of March!

As always, please let me know if you have any corrections/additions for this project.

Scarab Sages

PFWiki Scribe wrote:

Hi folks,

I've recently realized that PathfinderWiki can serve the Pathfinder Society community better (both GMs and players). The wiki focuses mainly on campaign setting material, but still could be quite useful to Pathfinder Society GMs.

I've started updating a few of the product pages for a number of scenarios with information about recurring characters and locations, and where further information on these subjects can be found. Take a look at Portent's Peril. Would this be useful information to create for ALL scenarios? Is there other information that would be useful? Remember that the wiki does not include lots of crunch, so we can't be of much use in that department (besides very basic information such as levels, classes, etc).

If you look at the bottom of the Portent's Peril page, you'll see that the categories already break down scenarios by tier and location (both cities and nations).

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Better Citations of where information is aquired, would be very nice. For example, recently trying to figure out which book had the "Deity Sacred Animals" listed in it. None of the sites with deity information seem to include the reference, but all of them list the sacred animals. Had to do several searches and eventually found it (don't remember now....)


Each of our deity entries has a sacred animal listed (if it's known) in the infobox in the top-right corner of the page, although the list I think you're thinking of is in "Inner Sea Gods".

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What I would find useful is some sort of listing for the settings of adventures

As a GM I find myself wanting to show off the various corners of the globe.


Douglas Edwards wrote:

What I would find useful is some sort of listing for the settings of adventures

As a GM I find myself wanting to show off the various corners of the globe.

That actually already exists, Douglas. It's done through our categories, which you'll find on the bottom of each page. Each adventure (both PFS scenarios and other adventures such as modules and APs) has a geographic locator category. If you click through to the "parent" category for each, you find two category pages for PFS scenarios and other adventures respectively: Pathfinder Society scenarios by location and Adventures by location. Each is broken down into nations, cities, and even neighborhoods within cities for the really big ones.

Hope that helps.

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GM Wageslave wrote:
PFWiki Scribe wrote:
Oh, I forgot to mention, I've also included the various Map Packs and Flip-Mats used for all the PFS scenarios I've updated (now through #4-08 The Cultist's Kiss). They're listed under "Available Resources" at the bottom of each product page.
I haven't taken a look yet, but are the maps noted as to which ones are out of print or the like?

You can refer to the Google sheet that I compiled and maintain for that information if you like.


Michael Eshleman wrote:
GM Wageslave wrote:
PFWiki Scribe wrote:
Oh, I forgot to mention, I've also included the various Map Packs and Flip-Mats used for all the PFS scenarios I've updated (now through #4-08 The Cultist's Kiss). They're listed under "Available Resources" at the bottom of each product page.
I haven't taken a look yet, but are the maps noted as to which ones are out of print or the like?
You can refer to the Google sheet that I compiled and maintain for that information if you like.

Michael's list is a great list, much more comprehensive than we can be on the wiki, and you should definitely check it out.


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I have kept my promise and completed Season 6: Year of the Sky Key in the time I hoped! Enjoy the links!


And now Season 7 is done! Only a few more to go ...

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Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Solid work here, thanks for that. I use PathfinderWiki to check town information and the like when running scenarios and prep.

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Just wanted to say thanks for what you are doing. I am an organizer that joined PFS in season 6, and the wiki has been a great resource for me to understand the meta-plots surrounding old scenarios and characters. This has really aided me in picking scenarios that when taken as a whole made a more coherent plot for my players.


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That's it, I'm all caught up through the most recent scenario, Hrethnar's Throne! As always, if you see a mistake let me know here, or create a PFWiki account and correct it yourself!

Now to fill in all of those red links ...


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*Perform thread necromancy*

So here we are over four years later and I've restarted the project after a nearly 2-year absence. I'm now up to #1-13 The Burden of Envy and still going strong.

For those of you who weren't with us four years ago, I started a project on PathfinderWiki.com in which I created an index for every proper noun used in a Pathfinder Society scenario that was repeated elsewhere, so that GMs and players could trace which stories were interlinked, and find out where to discover more info on a particular person, place, or thing.

As I'd like to also resurrect the original intent of this thread, so if you have any ideas for how PathfinderWiki could become more useful to folks who play in Pathfinder Society games, please let me know.

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Thank you for all your hard work!

Tangent: Are you also in charge of the Starfinder side? The list of Venture Captains and Lodges over there is pretty sparse, and could use updating.

As a Society GM I most often frequent the wiki for information about a city the Pathfinders might be visiting, or to download the image of a religious symbol, or to learn about an NPC referenced in a Scenario.

I also link to your pages directly when I'm GMing PbP and don't want to spam the players with information they may not be interested in.

It's been really great for those purposes. Between Archivesofnethys, your site, the Adventure I'm running, the GM Discussion Forum, Google and the actual rulebooks themselves I usually have everything I could ever want.

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Overall, I've found the site very helpful, especially when I first started playing Pathfinder (1E) and didn't know Nidal from Nirmathas. I still visit it all the time to get little tidbits like "what are Desna's favored colors" or "where would people worship Achaekek" or "what's the demonym for Vidrian".

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I am not as concerned about spoilers as others in the thread seem to be (I realize those comments were from a while ago when the 1E APs were newer), and think that because 2E incorporated a lot of lore from the 1E APs, those should be fair game for even moderate-level spoilers.

For instance, when I played PFS2 #1-12 Burden of Envy, I didn't know where "New Thassilon" was (was it in Avistan? Garund? Casmaron?) or what Runelords were (are they bad guys? can we assume they're evil?) ... and it was mildly irritating that nobody would tell me because of weird "we might spoil a 5-year-old 1E AP" culture. Oprak, New Thassilon, and Sarkoris are pretty integral parts of PFS2 now, and whatever APs developed their lore will have to be spoiled to some degree.

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PFWiki Scribe wrote:
I created an index for every proper noun used in a Pathfinder Society scenario that was repeated elsewhere, so that GMs and players could trace which stories were interlinked, and find out where to discover more info on a particular person, place, or thing.

One of the problems I've run into with the site is that the proper nouns don't always play a part in the story. For instance, PFS1 #5-14 Day of the Demon is listed as a

#5-14 Day of the Demon:
Tancred Desimire

scenario, but that proper noun only shows up in the background. While the actual work of curation is going to (a) involve legwork and (b) be subjective, it would be helpful for me to know if your intent was literally a listing of proper nouns that could be found, or whether the intent was something different.

Basically, I'm unsure whether it's a feature or a bug.


Nefreet wrote:
Thank you for all your hard work!

You're welcome. It's a labor of love and I'm glad people are finding it useful.

As for Starfinder Society scenarios, I am planning on adding those as well once I am up-to-date on the PFS ones. I'll personally only be able to do the first 19, however, as I stopped subscribing to them after that (since I don't personally play Starfinder).

The second project I'm working on is including all the changes in the setting that 2E brought with it by going through the Lost Omens World Guide line by line. After that I'll work on the Lost Omens Pathfinder Society Guide, which will update a lot of the VC and lodge info that you were asking about, but that'll be a few months :(

Thanks for the feedback!


Watery Soup wrote:
Overall, I've found the site very helpful ...

Thanks, Watery Soup. I agree that spoilers for the 1E APs are less of a big deal now, but we'll still include the warning at the top of the page, just in case there are those who do care. Having the warning doesn't hurt anyone, after all.

Watery Soup wrote:
One of the problems I've run into with the site is that the proper nouns don't always play a part in the story. For instance, PFS1 #5-14 Day of the Demon is listed as a ...

This is an issue I had to create a policy about when I created this project. The project errs on the side of including more information than less, so where there's a corner case, I generall tend to include it in case someone finds it valuable. I've never written down this policy (since I'm basically the only one who works on this these days), but here it is:

In order for a proper noun to be included in the list I ask the following questions in order:

1) Is the proper noun used at leat three times in the scenario? If yes, go to 2. If no, don't include it.

2) Does the proper noun appear in another PFS scenario (primarily) or in another Paizo publication (secondarily). If the answer is yes, go to number 3. If no, don't include it. (This is because the index only covers "recurring" concepts, otherwise I'd never finish this thing).

That's it.

So on the subject of Tancred Desimere, he was included because his name appears 26 times even though he personally does not appear in it. He's obviously an important part of the backstory, and even if player's don't interact with him, this project was mainly designed to help GMs find more background material.

So on your question of whether the project is just "literally a listing of proper nouns that could be found", my answer is "no" and that it is a feature and not a bug.

Hope that helps.

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I will reiterate my thanks for your labor of love!

When playing PbP, if I am on top of my game, I try to include at least 2-3 links for Geographic proper nouns in opening gameplay posts. I know it helps ground me in the world, and hopefully my players in having well-researched information just a click away.

One semi-request: Between Pathfinderwiki and Archives of Nethys, the only thing I am unable to LINK is the exact text for Boons. I don't suppose this is within your purview(?), but figure I might as well ask!

One real request: Looking at the Lost Omens World Guide, the entire book sorts itself by 10 Super Regions:

Spoiler:

1) Absalom and Starstone Isle
2) Broken Lands
3) Eye of Dread
4) Golden Road
5) High Seas
6) Impossible Lands
7) Mwangi Expanse
8) Old Cheliax
9) Saga Lands
10) Shining Kingdoms

I have noticed those proper nouns are not yet recognized by the system, and imagine it would be a lot of work to install. But again, asking here because you asked!

Cheers!

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To be clear, is it possible to (and would you appreciate people volunteering to) put information onto the site? Or is it easier if the information is centralized?

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I was wondering the same thing.

I have (nearly) every Starfinder Scenario, so putting together a list of the VCs/Lodges would just be a matter of setting aside the time and caffeine.


rainzax wrote:

I will reiterate my thanks for your labor of love!

When playing PbP, if I am on top of my game, I try to include at least 2-3 links for Geographic proper nouns in opening gameplay posts. I know it helps ground me in the world, and hopefully my players in having well-researched information just a click away.

Glad that you have found some use for the Wiki.

rainzax wrote:
One semi-request: Between Pathfinderwiki and Archives of Nethys, the only thing I am unable to LINK is the exact text for Boons. I don't suppose this is within your purview(?), but figure I might as well ask!

Unfortunately we can't do that, as we can't post any verbatim quotes from ANY Paizo publication on our website due to the restrictions of the Community Use Policy. All of the text on the wiki (with the exception of product descriptions from the Paizo web store) is rewritten in our own words. Believe me, if we could just cut-and-paste, it would be soooo much easier.

rainzax wrote:
One real request: Looking at the Lost Omens World Guide, the entire book sorts itself by 10 Super Regions

Yup, that's on the to-do list.


Watery Soup and Nefreet wrote:
To be clear, is it possible to (and would you appreciate people volunteering to) put information onto the site? Or is it easier if the information is centralized?

You sure can. Anyone is free to create a PathfinderWiki account and help us edit. We're all volunteers here as none of us get paid to edit the wiki.

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