Gunsmithing and Artisan's Shop Discount

[Protoman]

With the Gunsmithing feat, one can purchase black powder and regular bullets at 10% of regular price and alchemical cartridges at 50% of regular price.

Assuming one also has ranks in Craft (firearms) specifically to benefit from Artisan's Shop (Firearms) for a 5% discount on non-magical firearms and ammunition, how does that work with the Gunsmithing discounts?

Would the Gunsmithing prices be the new default price to apply artisan's discount? Black powder dose (10 gp) becomes 1 gp base price and 5% discount for 9 sp & 5 cp? And paper alchemical cartridge (12 gp) becomes 6 gp base price and 5% discount for 5 gp & 7 sp?

Or would the Gunsmithing and Artisan's Shop discounts be applied together? Black powder 10 gp dose gets a 95% discount (assuming Gunsmithing is considered a 90% discount) and becomes 5 sp? And paper alchemical cartridge 12 gp gets a 55% discount for 5 gp & 4 sp?

OOOOR would the two simply not stack?

[Nefreet]

You're not actually crafting, you're simply purchasing at a discount.

There would be no interaction between the two.

[leonvios]

Actually It has nothing to do with crafting, He should get both Discounts. When he is in the same city as his shop.

[SCPRedMage]

He should get both discounts, but take a closer look at the Artisan's Shop text...

Pathfinder Society Field Guide, pg 60 wrote:

Artisan’s Shop (5 PP): Your craft is your livelihood whenyou aren’t excavating musty tombs or exploring uncharted lands. You sell your wares through an unassuming storefront in a well-traff icked mercantile district. If you use ranks in any Craft skill to calculate your bonus on Day Job checks, having an artisan’s shop grants you a +1 circumstance bonus on all such checks. Additionally, you receive a 5% discount on all nonmagical merchandise in your area of expertise when purchasing it in the same city as your shop, rounded to the nearest gold piece.

[leonvios]

SCPRedMage wrote:

He should get both discounts, but take a closer look at the Artisan's Shop text...

Pathfinder Society Field Guide, pg 60 wrote:

Artisan’s Shop (5 PP): Your craft is your livelihood whenyou aren’t excavating musty tombs or exploring uncharted lands. You sell your wares through an unassuming storefront in a well-traff icked mercantile district. If you use ranks in any Craft skill to calculate your bonus on Day Job checks, having an artisan’s shop grants you a +1 circumstance bonus on all such checks. Additionally, you receive a 5% discount on all nonmagical merchandise in your area of expertise when purchasing it in the same city as your shop, rounded to the nearest gold piece.

Good spot, but if you add the %'s before you multiply the black powder would still be 1gp (round up since 0gp is absurd) but the paper cartridge would only be 5GP

[Protoman]

Ah totally missed that "rounded to the nearest gold piece" bit. I guess it probably wouldn't be applicable for regular bullets then since gunsmithing itself brings the price down to 1 sp and I doubt they intended artisan shop to have that rounded to 0 gp or have it rounded back up to 1 gp.

[FLite]

Nefreet wrote:

You're not actually crafting, you're simply purchasing at a discount.

There would be no interaction between the two.

Gunsmith "Crafting" prices are based on the notion that you are getting them for just the cost of the supplies.

Thus, you are buying the supplies, and the supplies are within your realm of expertise. So I would apply the gunsmith discount, then apply the artisans shop to the new price.

Note that the rounding means that for most items, this will not change the price.

The question of what artisan shop does to items costing 5 sp or less, is a more general question and deserves it's own thread.