Ki Volley clarification


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Ki Volley (Su): When a targeted spell or spell-like ability fails to overcome the monk's spell resistance from diamond soul, he can spend 2 ki points as an immediate action to send that spell back at its caster as spell turning. A monk must be 16th level or higher and possess the diamond soul ki power before selecting this ki power.

Alright, so this looks neat to me. An immediate action to send a targeted spell back at the caster. I assumed this just meant spend 2 ki if the caster fails your spell resistance and then the spell targets them now. Great, however it says it acts like spell turning. Now lets have a look at spell turning.

I would post the spell here but I don't want just a text wall. Spell Turning

I assume we ignore the duration, as this is an immediate effect. Fine. It only works on 1d4+6 levels worth of a spell. Sure, okay. The spell is stopped overall by the spell resistance from diamond soul anyway. Subtract the amount stopped from the total. For damaging spells, this means both take damage except I don't because Ki Volley only works when my spell resistance kicks in, right?

For a non damaging spell, each of you have a proportional chance of being affected. What is that proportion and shouldn't it be 0-100% since this only works if my spell resistance beat the spell initially?

If both have spell turning, roll on the table. Now that is interesting but again, why would effect me at all if, again, the spell has already failed due to spell resistance?

Sorry if I seem dumb for not clearly understanding spell turning through Ki Volley. Just looking for some clarification. Possibly because I have too much crown royal in me right now. By the way, don't experiment with making whiskey sours. No recipe really works well and you just end up a bit drunk and feeling gross trying to make one that works.


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Going to try and revive this thread. I had a game this past weekend where I finally used ki volley. After reading spell turning it did not make sense to me that I resisted the spell but would still be hit by it. Has anyone else ran into this in game? How was it handled?


Ki Volley is only like Spell Turning in the first sentence of Spell Turning's description.

None of that other stuff applies, except maybe that ranged touch spells are not stopped by it.

This doesn't apply:

"If you and a spellcasting attacker are both warded by spell turning effects in operation, a resonating field is created. Roll randomly to determine the result."

Two monks with diamond soul do not make a roll for random effect field between them if one shoots a Qinggong spell at the other.

You literally subtract two points from your Ki Pool as an immediate action, and the spell returns to its caster. That's it. There is no step two.


VoodistMonk wrote:


You literally subtract two points from your Ki Pool as an immediate action, and the spell returns to its caster. That's it. There is no step two.

Awesome...I was hoping this is how it was supposed to work.

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