PFS Sylph Cloud Gazer Obscuring Mist


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Since Sylph are now a legal PFS race, could someone provide some clarification on whether or not a melee caster, aka a magus, casting obscuring mist when they have the Sylph Cloud Gazer feat can see normally for 15 feet, aka suffer no miss chance from concealment?

Cloud Gazer - You can see through fog, mist, and clouds, without penalty, ignoring any cover or concealment bonuses from such effects. If the effect is created by magic, this feat instead triples the distance you can see without penalty.

Obscuring Mist - A misty vapor arises around you. It is stationary. The vapor obscures all sight, including darkvision, beyond 5 feet. A creature 5 feet away has concealment (attacks have a 20% miss chance). Creatures farther away have total concealment (50% miss chance, and the attacker cannot use sight to locate the target).


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You have a penalty for seeing 5 feet away (the target has concealment), so I do not think that distance qualifies for the distance you can see without penalty.

Which is not to say it is useless. Things closer than 5 feet do not gain concealment to you, so it is clear you can see them. If you triple this distance, it turns (for example) 0-4.999~ to 0-14.999~. In other words, targets closer than 15 feet, but not those at 15 feet, can be seen clearly.

This is not an official PFS ruling, it's simply my take.

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