Aether effects


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When suffering from the effects of aether, a spellcaster needs to make a caster-level check, yes?

The rules say "caster check" which isn't the correct term, and I want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly.

Also, if one fails the check, is the spell lost, or simply not cast?

I'm left to wonder why it isn't a Concentration check. A caster level check (assuming that's even what it meant to say) seems SO much harsher, even for high level casters.


Possibly they were at a word premium?

I definitely think it's meant to be a caster level check. And since it says you have to make the check to cast a spell, I'm inclined to believe it's a check made before you actually start trying to cast, and therefore failure doesn't cost you the prepared spell or spell slot.

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Saethori wrote:

Possibly they were at a word premium?

I definitely think it's meant to be a caster level check. And since it says you have to make the check to cast a spell, I'm inclined to believe it's a check made before you actually start trying to cast, and therefore failure doesn't cost you the prepared spell or spell slot.

That's an interesting thought. Do you think I would get to retain the action as well?


I would definitely assume that the missing word 'level' is just a typo.

I would also assume, like other caster level checks, it is part of casting the spell, and regardless of the outcome being positive of not the spell is expended.


Ravingdork wrote:
That's an interesting thought. Do you think I would get to retain the action as well?

I wouldn't think you could, those kinds of things often don't.

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I wouldn't expect to retain the action or the spell, should the check fail.


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What kind of action/how long does it take to use drugs? Would it be possible for me to use it as a weapon, such as putting aether on a rag and holding it over an enemy spellcaster's mouth momentarily in order to disrupt their ability to cast spells?


The drugs in the book, unlike poisons, are written with the idea that the user is purposefully and consensually using them. They are also not expected to be used in combat situations and as far as I know don't have any specific action type.

There have been many threads premised on the idea that as far as delivery systems drugs work like poisons (often with a syringe spear) but personally I believe that is a mistake and unwarranted (as well as being abusive).

As far as I know, there are no rules at all for administering a drug to an opponent. Given their design this is probably the best way to leave it. My house rule is that a drug can only be administered to a helpless opponent.


The only rule I know for administering drugs to an opponent is the 3rd Evangelist boon for followers of Mahathallah. That lets you use it as a (implicitly no save) poison effect on a weapon.

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