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And yet they still couldn't conceive of how powering up your weapons and targeting the other guy would *not* be seen as an act of friendly greeting.This 'tradition' was invented by Valen to make sure the Earth-Minbari War happened. In fact he needed to make it inevitable that first contact would not only go badly, but that events would play out as they were always meant to. All the way up to the events surrounding Sinclair's capture at the Battle of the Line, his being interrogated by the Grey Council, then triggering the Triluminary, their unilateral surrender, and his eventual involvement with the Minbari until he would go back in time and become Valen (again). It is a causal loop.
Dukat didn't seem surprised at what happened, which suggests he expected it would happen the way it did, that Delenn would do everything she did, etc. He knew he would die, because the Vorlons told him, and because Valen told _them_ how it would turn out for the Humans and Minbari.
This is why i love shows that progress a story line across seasons. B5 had some good moments of monster of the week and all but, smurf it, i like how they handled the metaplot. If only i could pull something like that off in a campaign :( stupid players would just assassinate the Minbari surrender delegation for extra loot...
This 'tradition' was invented by Valen to make sure the Earth-Minbari War happened. In fact he needed to make it inevitable that first contact would not only go badly, but that events would play out as they were always meant to. All the way up to the events surrounding Sinclair's capture at the Battle of the Line, his being interrogated by the Grey Council, then triggering the Triluminary, their unilateral surrender, and his eventual involvement with the Minbari until he would go back in time and become Valen (again). It is a causal loop.
Dukat didn't seem surprised at what happened, which suggests he expected it would happen the way it did, that Delenn would do everything she did, etc. He knew he would die, because the Vorlons told him, and because Valen told _them_ how it would turn out for the Humans and Minbari.
The problem with trying to institute/enforce a causal loop is: What if somebody messes up?
This 'tradition' was invented by Valen to make sure the Earth-Minbari War happened. In fact he needed to make it inevitable that first contact would not only go badly, but that events would play out as they were always meant to. All the way up to the events surrounding Sinclair's capture at the Battle of the Line, his being interrogated by the Grey Council, then triggering the Triluminary, their unilateral surrender, and his eventual involvement with the Minbari until he would go back in time and become Valen (again). It is a causal loop.
Dukat didn't seem surprised at what happened, which suggests he expected it would happen the way it did, that Delenn would do everything she did, etc. He knew he would die, because the Vorlons told him, and because Valen told _them_ how it would turn out for the Humans and Minbari.
The problem with trying to institute/enforce a causal loop is: What if somebody messes up?
Then they were always meant to have messed up?
^I mean what if they mess up in a way that makes the loop not close? I could see that attempted causality loops might instead turn into oscillators or even chaotic attractors, and might even go divergent if things really go wrong.