Sacred Implement of Nethys in Occult Origins Doesn't Really Do Much?


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So, I was looking over the Sacred Implements in Occult Origins and noticed the one for Nethys could be useful--except Occultists don't even get any spells that provide an enhancement bonus to an ability score. So, they can't even make use of the main purpose of this implement. They can make use of it to modify a magic item, but that's usually not even useful until they have an item that gives a +4 bonus. Or am I missing something here?

CINDER-STAINED BANYAN (NETHYS):

Implement School transmutation; Implement vest; Opposition School divination
Parity (Su) While casting a transmutation spell that provides
you an enhancement bonus to a single mental or physical
attribute, you can expend 1 point of mental focus as an
immediate action to divide the bonus the spell provides,
granting half to the original attribute affected by the spell
and half to a corresponding attribute. Strength corresponds
with Intelligence, Dexterity corresponds with Wisdom, and
Constitution corresponds with Charisma. You can also use
this ability to divide an ability score bonus granted by a
magic item, but you must immediately expend 1 point of
mental focus each day when you allocate mental focus to
your implements to maintain the parity, or else the bonus
immediately reverts to normal.


It should work with the physical enhancement transmutation implement focus power


Apraham Lincoln wrote:
It should work with the physical enhancement transmutation implement focus power

Using a Resonant Power isn't casting a spell, so that won't work.

I suspect that this is one of the powers that are intended to be used by loaning the Implement to someone else. Like the Conjuration Resonant Power.

Mark Seifter wrote:
Gisher wrote:
swoosh wrote:

One more pathfinder question question.

Do you think, as written, the Occultist's Conjuration Resonant Power is broken? And if so do you have any suggested ways to improve it?

It is weird that the only Occultist spell that it works with is Glitterdust.

But the Sha'ir archetype does get Summon Monster (elementals only) spells so they can get some use out of it. And Mark did write the Sha'ir.

Glitterdust, sha'irs, new spells, and giving the implement over to other characters all work. Logan and I sort of added resonant powers to the class from Jason's initial draft, and back when they had two, the idea that the summoning one was more useful for lending to the conjurer and the other was better for you (plus both were not as juicy as resonances for schools like divination, making you decide between getting a great resonance from divination or more uses of the more powerful servitor focus power). When Jason chose one to keep for each school to help make it less complicated, I noted that the class didn't have summon monster. I still put them in for sha'ir though.

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Yeah, I found that other discussion around the Conjuration Resonant Power when trying to search for some clarification on this.

The Transmutation Resonant Power is a Supernatural effect, so it doesn't even count as casting a spell.

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