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So I'm creating a bladebound magus for PFS play, and I was wondering if it is possible to modify the Black Blade with gold as well as Arcane Pool Points. Specifically, I'm wondering if I could get Agile put on it, for I have a much higher Dex than Str on this character, and since my BB can be a rapier anyway, and I qualify for Weapon Finesse, it would make me much more effective.
Thanks for all the answers in advance!
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So I'm creating a bladebound magus for PFS play, and I was wondering if it is possible to modify the Black Blade with gold as well as Arcane Pool Points. Specifically, I'm wondering if I could get Agile put on it, for I have a much higher Dex than Str on this character, and since my BB can be a rapier anyway, and I qualify for Weapon Finesse, it would make me much more effective.
Thanks for all the answers in advance!
Short answer, no.
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So I'm creating a bladebound magus for PFS play, and I was wondering if it is possible to modify the Black Blade with gold as well as Arcane Pool Points. Specifically, I'm wondering if I could get Agile put on it, for I have a much higher Dex than Str on this character, and since my BB can be a rapier anyway, and I qualify for Weapon Finesse, it would make me much more effective.
Thanks for all the answers in advance!
Short answer, no.
Wow, not sure how I missed that one the FAQ... Thanks for that! Can I use my Arcane Pool to add Agile to my Black Blade? I only ask because the only place that I see Agile mentioned is in my Pathfinder Society Field Guide, and it isn't explicitly on the list of enhancements in Ultimate Magic.
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Wow, not sure how I missed that one the FAQ... Thanks for that! Can I use my Arcane Pool to add Agile to my Black Blade? I only ask because the only place that I see Agile mentioned is in my Pathfinder Society Field Guide, and it isn't explicitly on the list of enhancements in Ultimate Magic.So I'm creating a bladebound magus for PFS play, and I was wondering if it is possible to modify the Black Blade with gold as well as Arcane Pool Points. Specifically, I'm wondering if I could get Agile put on it, for I have a much higher Dex than Str on this character, and since my BB can be a rapier anyway, and I qualify for Weapon Finesse, it would make me much more effective.
Thanks for all the answers in advance!
Short answer, no.
Unfortunately, if it's not on the list, it's not something you can add. Agile has only been in one book as far as I know (Pathfinder Society Field Guide).
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However there may very well be a feat that adds dex to damage instead of str in the ACG.Quoting myself because it's been confirmed by someone who got the pdf, there is a feat that gives dex to damage for one-handed slashing weapons in the Advanced Class Guide.
You mean Dex-based Black-blades don't have to be Dervish Dancers anymore? Woot!
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Well that certainly doesn't help my rapier-wielding magus whatsoever. And it's not like the rapier shouldn't already be S/P for damage type anyway.However there may very well be a feat that adds dex to damage instead of str in the ACG.Quoting myself because it's been confirmed by someone who got the pdf, there is a feat that gives dex to damage for one-handed slashing weapons in the Advanced Class Guide.
I dunno, it might work with the Weapon Versatility feat from the Undead Slayer's Guide (Handbook?)
That would, of course, get a little strange, though...
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The Slashing Grace feat from the ACG lets you use dex to damage on a one handed slashing weapon and to treat it as a one handed piercing weapon for class abilities. It does not allow that weapon to be used with weapon finesse. So you can use it with an Aldori Dueling Sword or a whip, or you can dip a level of Swashbuckler for the ability to treat one handed piercing weapons as finesse-able.
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The Slashing Grace feat from the ACG lets you use dex to damage on a one handed slashing weapon and to treat it as a one handed piercing weapon for class abilities. It does not allow that weapon to be used with weapon finesse. So you can use it with an Aldori Dueling Sword or a whip, or you can dip a level of Swashbuckler for the ability to treat one handed piercing weapons as finesse-able.It does enough that it will be worth taking on a ninja that two-weapon fights with wakizashi. I can already see a human ninja that takes TWF and SG at level 1, then Finesse Rogue at level 2 and BAM! has a pair of weapons that he's swinging at a +3/+3 (1d6+4, 18-20/x2).
Doesn't work as written. Wakizashi is a light weapon, not a one-handed one. Slashing grace only apples to one-handed weapons.
Also the feat order doesn't work in your example, as Slashing Grace has Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite.
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The Slashing Grace feat from the ACG lets you use dex to damage on a one handed slashing weapon and to treat it as a one handed piercing weapon for class abilities. It does not allow that weapon to be used with weapon finesse. So you can use it with an Aldori Dueling Sword or a whip, or you can dip a level of Swashbuckler for the ability to treat one handed piercing weapons as finesse-able.It does enough that it will be worth taking on a ninja that two-weapon fights with wakizashi. I can already see a human ninja that takes TWF and SG at level 1, then Finesse Rogue at level 2 and BAM! has a pair of weapons that he's swinging at a +3/+3 (1d6+4, 18-20/x2).Doesn't work as written. Wakizashi is a light weapon, not a one-handed one. Slashing grace only apples to one-handed weapons.
Also the feat order doesn't work in your example, as Slashing Grace has Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite.
A human ninja could take Slashing Grace and Weapon Finesse at first level and combat trick: TWF at 2nd.
Does the feat description say it applies to one handed martial weapons, or simply one handed weapons? If it is the latter, then you can apply the feat to light weapons.
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The Slashing Grace feat from the ACG lets you use dex to damage on a one handed slashing weapon and to treat it as a one handed piercing weapon for class abilities. It does not allow that weapon to be used with weapon finesse. So you can use it with an Aldori Dueling Sword or a whip, or you can dip a level of Swashbuckler for the ability to treat one handed piercing weapons as finesse-able.It does enough that it will be worth taking on a ninja that two-weapon fights with wakizashi. I can already see a human ninja that takes TWF and SG at level 1, then Finesse Rogue at level 2 and BAM! has a pair of weapons that he's swinging at a +3/+3 (1d6+4, 18-20/x2).Doesn't work as written. Wakizashi is a light weapon, not a one-handed one. Slashing grace only apples to one-handed weapons.
Also the feat order doesn't work in your example, as Slashing Grace has Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite.
A human ninja could take Slashing Grace and Weapon Finesse at first level and combat trick: TWF at 2nd.
Does the feat description say it applies to one handed martial weapons, or simply one handed weapons? If it is the latter, then you can apply the feat to light weapons.
Here is Kudaku's post that has the feat. I put it in a spoiler tag for convenience.
Slashing Grace (Combat)
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus with chosen weapon.
Benefit: Choose one kind of one-handed slashing weapon (such as the longsword). When wielding your chosen weapon one-handed, you can treat it as a one-handed piercing melee weapon for all feats and class abilities that require such a weapon (such as a swashbuckler’s or a duelist’s precise strike) and you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to that weapon’s damage. The weapon must be one appropriate for your size.
It's for a single one-handed weapon you have weapon focus in.
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That's going to suck if it doesn't work for light weapons. Although I guess it helps lessen the power of a Dex-based dual-wield build. As if that build needed any lessening of its power.
Yep. It also sucks for natural attack/unarmed strike builds. But what really doesn't make sense is that it's possible to get dex to damage with a dwarven waraxe, but not a rapier with this feat.
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That's going to suck if it doesn't work for light weapons. Although I guess it helps lessen the power of a Dex-based dual-wield build. As if that build needed any lessening of its power.Yep. It also sucks for natural attack/unarmed strike builds. But what really doesn't make sense is that it's possible to get dex to damage with a dwarven waraxe, but not a rapier with this feat.
I agree. This does not make any sense what so ever.
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So I'm building a Human swashbuckler. My feat selection is as follows.
1: Weapon Focus Wakizashi / Piranha Strike
3: Slashing Grace
4: TWFA 10 Str and an 18 dex at first level.
Why use a rapier at all?
Swashbucklers are proficient in wakizashis? Also Slashing Grace doesn't apply to wakizashis because they're light rather than one-handed. :/
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Swashbucklers are proficient in wakizashis? Also Slashing Grace doesn't apply to wakizashis because they're light rather than one-handed. :/So I'm building a Human swashbuckler. My feat selection is as follows.
1: Weapon Focus Wakizashi / Piranha Strike
3: Slashing Grace
4: TWFA 10 Str and an 18 dex at first level.
Why use a rapier at all?
So, change the race to Tengu and omit Piranha Strike. There you are.
The point being, Jiggy, if I wanted to play an a character using the Aldori Dueling Sword, I WOULD PLAY AN ALDORI SWORD LORD. Which I already have and is a ton of fun to play. And Slashing Grace is unnecessary because level 1 of the ASL Prestige Class gives you the ability to use dex instead of str for damage. Or, I could still take Slashing Grace and not take a level in ASL. Even better!
I wanted to play a swashbuckler wielding a rapier. Not another version of a character I already have.
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So the feat requires Weapon Finesse but with the exception of an Aldori Dueling Sword doesn't actually work on finessable weapons? Something is effed up with this.
Exactly! There are two martial weapons that I can name off the top of my head that are finessable, the aforementioned Aldori Dueling Sword and the Elven Curved Blade.
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So the feat requires Weapon Finesse but with the exception of an Aldori Dueling Sword doesn't actually work on finessable weapons? Something is effed up with this.
Unless of course you're a Swashbuckler, who can use DEX to hit with one-handed piercing weapons, which Slashing Grace lets you treat your one-handed slashing weapon as.
So it's a feat that gives DEX to damage, but doesn't really function properly without a certain class feature.
Really hoping it was an oversight that can get smoothed out with a FAQ. :/
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So the feat requires Weapon Finesse but with the exception of an Aldori Dueling Sword doesn't actually work on finessable weapons? Something is effed up with this.Exactly! There are two martial weapons that I can name off the top of my head that are finessable, the aforementioned Aldori Dueling Sword and the Elven Curved Blade.
Well, both are exotic, not martial (unless you're an elf for the 2 handed curved blade).
Whips would also be a good one for this (though exotic as well).
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Eep!
Look, I'm just forewarning you that wakizashi doesn't work, so you don't fall into a trap. Since you're looking at Swashbuckler anyway, you don't need to use the ADS. You just have to either use a one-handed slashing weapon or not get DEX to damage.
And for that, you have my sympathy. :(
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So the feat requires Weapon Finesse but with the exception of an Aldori Dueling Sword doesn't actually work on finessable weapons? Something is effed up with this.Unless of course you're a Swashbuckler, who can use DEX to hit with one-handed piercing weapons, which Slashing Grace lets you treat your one-handed slashing weapon as.
So it's a feat that gives DEX to damage, but doesn't really function properly without a certain class feature.
Really hoping it was an oversight that can get smoothed out with a FAQ. :/
No, one needs only a dex of 13, weapon focus, and weapon finesse.
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No, one needs only a dex of 13, weapon focus, and weapon finesse.
And they can add dex to damage with it. But the feat does not make it a finesse weapon, so it still uses STR to hit, unless it is already finesse-able or you have a class feature (like the swachbuckler) to use one handed piercing weapons as finesse weapons.
It's really only useful if you are a swashbuckler, or are using the dueling sword or a whip.