Pregen Characters (PFS Legal)


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I am going to run a level 3-7 game tomorrow and 4 of the party members are coming with level 6s and 7s. We will be playing a level 6-7 game.

The last player do not have any 3-7 characters at the moment and wish to use a Level 4 Pregen.

Questions...

1. Can the Pregen be a Level 4, or must be a Level 7 pregen.

2. Must the pregen be Grand Lodge only. That player current level 2 character is from Grand Lodge

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yes, lv4 is a valid level for the scenario.
yes all pregens are grand lodge.

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Why does the player want to play a level 4 pregen? Just to apply it sooner? I wouldn't recommend it, since there's a much bigger chance of death.

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Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

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he also gets more gold.

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Less gold then playing it as a lvl 7.

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(First, must say I am no official source, this is my own opinion)

There's some leeway in what "level appropriate" pregen means. So as written, right now he would be fine doing that. And that's that.

...However, I don't really like that idea.

When I GM, I interpret it as appropriate for the subtier (Of course, there's nothing you can do with 5-9 or 7-11 scenarios, but I do enforce it for 1-5 and 3-7 scenarios).

Part of the reason I do this is to prevent someone from playing a level 4 pregen in a 1-2 subtier game in a 1-5 scenario. They can grossly overpower it, and if it's not even their own character I don't really see a good reason to allow it.

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no, normal gold for playing level 7.
extra gold if playing lv4.
Hence more gold.
Playing lv7 would just get him normal gold.

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Which is more?
a.)1000
b.)1500
c.)2000

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Since the Lvl 7 gold is greater than the out of subtier gold...

I stand by the FACT that playing at Lvl 7 give more gold.

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As someone who played two levels of L7 pregen worth of credit, just make sure that the player is aware that the 3-7 will probably need to be applied before any 7-11 credits (if they have any on their character). They could probably get by with two 7-11 credits in front of it, (or five if they're slow-tracking) but if they level out of the top tier for the scenario you can reference the thread that exploded a couple of months ago when I asked about that same situation...

...here

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RainyDayNinja wrote:
Why does the player want to play a level 4 pregen? Just to apply it sooner? I wouldn't recommend it, since there's a much bigger chance of death.

Depending on the scenario, group and pregen this could be a REALLY bad idea. Most 4th level pregens are an active drain on the group in subtier 6-7, they'd often be literally better off with only 5 characters.

Personally, if it is available I usually insist the pregen be in subtier. Playing up with a level 4 is borderline jerk behaviour.

The exception is if the scenario is going to be a ROTFLSTOMP anyways. Then I don't care that much and will let the players decide

Edit: added a bit for clarity

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Tempest_Knight wrote:

Which is more?

a.)1000
b.)1500
c.)2000

~

Since the Lvl 7 gold is greater than the out of subtier gold...

I stand by the FACT that playing at Lvl 7 give more gold.

average gold for

lv4 gets 1000
lv7 is 2000
*number are just for example.

If you play as lv4 you get 1500 for out of tier
if you play as lv7 you get 2000 for lv7

1500-1000 = 500 gold more than normal
2000-2000 = normal gold.

So the only one that gives more gold is the lv4 playing out of tier. Playing lv7 just gives you expected gold.

*Trying to figure out if you intentionally wanted to misinterpret my statements or if you literally didn't understand what I was saying.


Kraak SteVe wrote:

Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

Let him remember though if the pregen dies, that death is applied to the character he's assigning the scenario to.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Kraak SteVe wrote:

Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

Let him remember though if the pregen dies, that death is applied to the character he's assigning the scenario to.

Except that if your pregen dies you can create a new character number and hurl it in front of the death.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Kraak SteVe wrote:

Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

Let him remember though if the pregen dies, that death is applied to the character he's assigning the scenario to.

Yeah but if he's applying it to -54 with 0xp there is not consequences on his part. I've seen too many bonekeep flops due to this.


andreww wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Kraak SteVe wrote:

Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

Let him remember though if the pregen dies, that death is applied to the character he's assigning the scenario to.
Except that if your pregen dies you can create a new character number and hurl it in front of the death.

I've always required people to put their assigned characters on the signup sheet before the module begins. I've seen no reason to allow someone to make a change on that and use that sort of cheesy exploit, just because things went south. I do allow them to use that character's assets to fix things.

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The last campaign coordinator ruled that it's ok to assign a pregen death to a new character number. As far as I know, that's still an official ruling for PFS that hasn't been contradicted since then.

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
andreww wrote:
Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
Kraak SteVe wrote:

Yes, he wish to apply it sooner and I have just informed of the higher chance of death.

Let him remember though if the pregen dies, that death is applied to the character he's assigning the scenario to.
Except that if your pregen dies you can create a new character number and hurl it in front of the death.
I've always required people to put their assigned characters on the signup sheet before the module begins. I've seen no reason to allow someone to make a change on that and use that sort of cheesy exploit, just because things went south. I do allow them to use that character's assets to fix things.

We have an official FAQ for PFS that says if you die you can change the assignment to a different number and have that character die. This is the reason to allow someone to make a change and use the officially sanctioned "cheesy exploit"

So now that you're aware, you must conform to the rule and allow your players this option. :D

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Drahliana Moonrunner wrote:
I've always required people to put their assigned characters on the signup sheet before the module begins. I've seen no reason to allow someone to make a change on that and use that sort of cheesy exploit, just because things went south. I do allow them to use that character's assets to fix things.

Well, you are DOING IT WRONG

Silver Crusade 4/5

Heh. I missed that it was in the FAQ now. That's newer than the conversation with Mike Brock I linked.

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