I'm thinking of playing one of these in PFS, and wanted to get a little clarification on a potential problem. My goal is to work for level 4, when I can take the Fox Form feat, allowing my kitsune to use Beast Shape II to turn into a fox. Just wanted to get people's opinions on whether or not I would still be able to use my kinetic blast in such a form.
Also, how long does the transformation last? I'm thinking it's unlimited duration, same as when he turns into a human, but wanted to check.
You don't get a feat at 4th level, so you'd need to take Fox Shape as your 5th level feat.
The question on whether you can kinetic blast in Fox Shape is an interesting one, because it is completely dependent upon whether or not quadrupeds are considered to have "hands." However, the term, "prehensile appendage" crops up here and there, and if we go with the common sense biology meaning of the word, that refers to things that are capable of grasping objects. Like a monkey's tail or an elephant's trunk.
Based on the way its written and the fact that what constitutes a "hand" in Pathfinder is never really explained, my answer would be, "No, you can't create or aim your kinetic blast while you're in a Fox Shape."
Retraining, I can pick something moderately helpful, turn it in Fox Shape, then pick the feat up again next level.
When you use retraining (as in the Ultimate Campaign feat) you need to have been able to qualify for the feat at the level of feat you're retraining. For instance, you don't qualify for Fox Shape at 3rd level, so you can't retrain your 3rd level feat to Fox Shape.
Retraining, I can pick something moderately helpful, turn it in Fox Shape, then pick the feat up again next level.When you use retraining (as in the Ultimate Campaign feat) you need to have been able to qualify for the feat at the level of feat you're retraining. For instance, you don't qualify for Fox Shape at 3rd level, so you can't retrain your 3rd level feat to Fox Shape.
Actually, Val'bryn2 is doing retraining correctly according to the Feat Retraining FAQ.
Protoman and Val'bryn2 are correct as per the FAQ. I highly recommend running it like Alex Augunas says in a home game, since retraining costs are clearly incommensurate with the ability to build otherwise-impossible characters with only high level abilities. However, for PFS, Val'bryn2 would follow the normal retraining rules.
...ya know, this whole time I have been hearing it the other way around by a lot of sources. I... might have to bookmark that ruling for chea- I mean, creative martial game mechanics.
ya know, this whole time I have been hearing it the other way around by a lot of sources. I... might have to bookmark that ruling for chea- I mean, creative martial game mechanics.
I don't find it the retraining rules that easy to abuse. Lots of builds don't have room for lots "dummy feats" to be easily replaced with retraining and also lots of high level feats have decent amount of prereqs for them.
Back to the original question, I don't think lots of folks have the opinion that a fox shaped kitsune could use a kinetic blast due to lack of hands or prehensile appendage.
She must have at least one hand free to aim the blast (or one prehensile appendage, if she doesn't have hands).
Edit: ninja'd!
Naaaw, I don't find that ruling abusive. It seems totally fine to me honestly. Pay money, get gud.
Hopefully someday there will be a way for Kitsune fire blasts, but for now everyone is right.
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...ya know, this whole time I have been hearing it the other way around by a lot of sources. I... might have to bookmark that ruling for chea- I mean, creative martial game mechanics.
If I remember correctly, there was a podcast with Jason Bulmahn as a guest where he said the cost was similar to buying a magic item and he wasn't worried about the power of building impossible characters.
...ya know, this whole time I have been hearing it the other way around by a lot of sources. I... might have to bookmark that ruling for chea- I mean, creative martial game mechanics.If I remember correctly, there was a podcast with Jason Bulmahn as a guest where he said the cost was similar to buying a magic item and he wasn't worried about the power of building impossible characters.
I was just being cheaky about calling it cheating.
I actually really am glad to learn this as I totally agree. The cost totally makes this fair in my eyes. I'm just happy because it's a cool dynamic I can think about when creating characters and a different form of wealth to manipulate.