PF: Unchained New Action Economy and Two Weapon Fighting Question


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Hi everyone,

I was reading the PF Unchained sidebar about two weapon fighting, as follows:

"When you fight with a second weapon in your off hand or with a double weapon, you can make two attacks with the first attack simple action you take during your turn: one with your primary hand and another with your off hand. You take penalties on these attack rolls as listed on Table: Two-Weapon Fighting Penalties. Any other attack simple actions you take during your turn allow only one attack roll, using either the weapon in your primary hand or the one in your off hand.

If you have the Improved Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can make two attack rolls on both the first and second attack simple actions taken during your turn; both of the attacks made on the second attack action are made at a –5 penalty. Further attack simple actions taken during the same turn allow only one attack roll, using either the weapon in your primary hand or the one in your off hand.

If you have the Greater Two-Weapon Fighting feat, you can make two attacks on each of your attack simple actions on your turn, though you take all the normal penalties for two-weapon fighting, as well as the cumulative –5 penalty per attack simple action (all attacks made as part of the same attack action have the same penalty)."

So my question is as follows... For Improved Two Weapon Fighting, it says that you take a -5 penalty on your second attack... now, is this TOTAL penalty? Or do you first apply the two-weapon-fighting penalties (assume it's been optimized to be -2/-2 here), then add the -5 penalty for being your second attack option, then add the -5 penalty listed above for a whopping -12 penalty on your second round attacks? Or is the -5 penalty above simply the listed penalty for being the second attack action, which you then add the TWF penalty of -2/-2 to for a total of -7 penalty on your second attack round?

I ask because the Greater Two Weapon Fighting entry specifically states that you take the TWF fighting penalties, and then apply the -5 to your second attack action and -10 to your third attack action (which would be -2/-7/-12 in penalties here).

If the -5 is the sum total for the second attack action in ITWF, then you'd have -2/-5/-12 for your three attack actions.

So... which is it? Thanks for any help :)


-2/-7/-12 Is the one it should be if i understand it correctly.


That's what I'm hoping.

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