Which doesn't matter if you're invisible because you gather power isn't something that breaks the spell.
Or if your target is flat-footed.
Or if any of the other ways to get sneak attack applies.
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Which doesn't matter if you're invisible because you gather power isn't something that breaks the spell.
Or if your target is flat-footed.
Or if any of the other ways to get sneak attack applies.
Invisibility masks the kineticist, not the nimbus and gather power. For the most part this is an insignificant difference but situations exist that may affect the OP in how they interact like in a surprise round. You couldn't GP a full round and them unleash from invisible without the enemy knowing something was up.
The once a round standard action kinetic blast attack seems to work well with stealth sniping rules. Ranged sneak attacks are usually difficult to pull off and GP only makes it worse as expect GM frowning if you GP before sneak attacking in many situations.
As I said previously, it works but bear some things in mind if you use this combo.
Invisibility masks the kineticist, not the nimbus and gather power.
Is there a definitive rule that says this?
I can see the reasoning behind saying it doesn't hide Gather Power. However, gathering said power would not stop an invisible Kineticist with Sneak Attack from getting Sneak Attack.
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Invisibility masks the kineticist, not the nimbus and gather power.Is there a definitive rule that says this?
Gathering power creates an extremely loud, visible display in a 20-foot radius centered on the kineticist, as the energy or matter swirls around her. Gathering power in this way allows the kineticist to reduce the total burn cost of a blast wild talent she uses in the same round by 1 point.
Items dropped or put down by an invisible creature become visible; items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature. Light, however, never becomes invisible, although a source of light can become so (thus, the effect is that of a light with no visible source). Any part of an item that the subject carries but that extends more than 10 feet from it becomes visible.
Gather Power generates light and noise that invisibility cannot cover, and it extends more than 10 feet from the kineticist. By both rules, it's clearly detectable.
The kineticist still has total concealment until an attack roll is made, but everyone knows that something is causing that gather power display.
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Yeah, just because they know you're there doesn't automatically mean they are able to dodge your blasts as per normal. I'ld rule that whoever's about to get blasted knows that this will hurt like all the layers of the abyss, but can't do much about it.
Sure they can. They can make an attack at the center of the gather power radius on the assumption something is there. AoEs work best, but they can deal with the 50% miss chance if not. They can drop prone for +4 to AC vs ranged attacks, They can block line of sight with total cover, there are plenty of tactical option they can do.
The kineticist still has total concealment until an attack roll is made, but everyone knows that something is causing that gather power display.
Thank you.
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I agree with everyone here; gathering power is going to probably reveal your presence, but you still probably won't be observed, so you can sneak attack with your blast if not (see Ultimate Intrigue for more details on levels of awareness).
They should still be able to get the flat footed even if they're fully aware that you are there. If they are anticipating an attack but cannot see you then they cannot properly fully react when the attack goes off because they cannot read your body language and prepare.
Imagine being at home base of a baseball diamond. If you see the pitcher wind up then you can prepare and swing the bat to hit the ball. If you're just standing there knowing a ball is about to come but don't know when then you are still not as prepared when a ball suddenly appears flying full speed at you.