Kitsune: which sounds better?


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I've had 3 ideas involving kitsune classes and can't pick between them. I also can't think of a good backstory or personality of said characters. Any help is appreciated.

Arcane Trickster Kitsune
Enchanting Sorcerer Kitsune
"Were-fox" Sorcerer Kitsune (human Sorcerer magic, fox form savage physical)


Have you thought about mesmerist?


That ones interesting, although now I have 4 options to choose from xD I'm thinking mesmerist or enchanting, but I can't think of a good personality type for the enchanting kitsune

Edit: btw enchanting sorcerer would either be fey or crossblooded fey/impossible

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AkamaruRules wrote:

I've had 3 ideas involving kitsune classes and can't pick between them. I also can't think of a good backstory or personality of said characters. Any help is appreciated.

Arcane Trickster Kitsune
Enchanting Sorcerer Kitsune
"Were-fox" Sorcerer Kitsune (human Sorcerer magic, fox form savage physical)

I consider the last one to be blatant cheese, even if its legal. I would steer clear of anything involving Racial Adaptability personally.

Of the two, enchanting sorcerer is pretty common because its powerful. You have to be mindful, however, because its no fun when you obliterate encounters with a single spell. Arcane trickster has a lot more support behind it then ever before, and a rogue 1/wizard X can get into the class pretty quickly thanks to the new Accomplished Sneak Attacker feat. Sorcerer is more thematic than wizard for a kitsune arcane trickster, but it takes more effort to get into the class and you'll be two levels behind a wizard in your casting as opposed to one. (Still, that isn't quite make-or-break like it used to be.)

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I think "cheese" is a little strong for the Racial Heritage concept, especially on an arcane caster. I don't really see what's so bad about it that isn't worse on a full-blood kitsune. (Full disclosure: I built an NPC ranger with that ability.) Definitely something to discuss with the GM in advance, though.

If I were going to call anything involving Fox Form "cheese", it would be using that feat with a psychic magic practitioner. It's basically stripping out all the drawbacks of the feat at once. Mouser swashbuckler deserves a shout-out as well.


Uh, actually... for the third, they probably just mean that they would be doing their sorcery while in human form, and doing physical/melee stuff in kitsune form. Not racial heritage shenanigans.

Which while kinda interesting as a concept, I think it would potentailly run into effectiveness problems physical-wise.

Liberty's Edge

This character is a kitsune sorcerer, fey bloodline. It is pretty powerful due to it having high enchantment (Compulsion) dcs thanks to fey bloodline, spell focus, greater spell focus and being a tattooed sorcerer. About to be level 7, at which the DC for level 3 compulsion spells will be 26

I am taking spells that are not enchantments as well, to not be shut down against constructs and undead, and not to be too powerful.


Yeah Archive, that's what I mean. Kinda like a kitsune who favors more of the human side but when he has to (or find out of spells) turns into fox form and has claws and bite and stuff. I think I would lose effectiveness with the were-fox unless it were built ok.

Anyone have any ideas for personality of a kitsune or enchanting kitsune? Pompous? Childlike? Controlling? Etc...


AkamaruRules wrote:

Yeah Archive, that's what I mean. Kinda like a kitsune who favors more of the human side but when he has to (or find out of spells) turns into fox form and has claws and bite and stuff. I think I would lose effectiveness with the were-fox unless it were built ok.

Anyone have any ideas for personality of a kitsune or enchanting kitsune? Pompous? Childlike? Controlling? Etc...

Hard to say, they all work for the concept. I'm fiddling with a character generator to build a kitsune bard who favours the whole whip thing (mmm, feat starvation), basically a carefree sort of person until she meets slavers to mess up royally. Hard to really put a finger on just one.

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