Dragon Style / Ferocity + Ascetic Style + Weapon Style Mastery


Rules Questions

Sczarni

Ascetic Style + Weapon Style Mastery
Benefit: Choose one weapon from the monk fighter weapon group. While using this style and wielding the chosen weapon, you can apply the effects of feats that have Improved Unarmed Strike as a prerequisite, as well as effects that augment an unarmed strike, as if attacks with the weapon were unarmed attacks.
Benefit: Choose one weapon style (a style feat that lists Weapon Focus as a prerequisite) that you have. You can have the chosen style and a second style active at once.

Dragon Style:
Benefit: While using this style, you gain a +2 bonus on saving throws against sleep effects, paralysis effects, and stunning effects. You ignore difficult terrain when you charge, run, or withdraw. You can also charge through squares that contain allies. Further, you can add 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus on the damage roll for your first unarmed strike on a given round.

Dragon Ferocity:
Benefit: While using Dragon Style, you gain a bonus on unarmed strike damage rolls equal to half your Strength bonus.

Question:
So, somehow combining all of these Feats together: Would these actually end up stacking the Str multiplier for damage between Wielding a two handed weapon and Dragon Ferocity?

If it does, would it look like 1st Attack: 2.5x Str All other Attacks: 2x Str?

The logic I'm seeing behind this so far: 2H weapon or one-handed weapon being swung with 2 hands = 1.5x for all attacks in that way, Dragon Style + Ascetic Style bumps it up to 2x for the first attack, Dragon Ferocity bumps the first attack up to 2.5x and the rest of the attacks up to 2x. All of this due to "you can apply the effects of feats that have Improved Unarmed Strike as a prerequisite, as well as effects that augment an unarmed strike, as if attacks with the weapon were unarmed attacks." clause in Ascetic Style.


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You can't add an attribute to the same thing twice (unless it was +STR and then +STR as a morale bonus, so it would be two different bonuses). The max you'll ever be able to get is 2x to any given attack. Nothing to sneeze at.


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Dragon style and 2hw are giving the same thing. 1.5 str for you damage. Ferocity does add .5str to damage.
but you left out a line in ferocity.
"to a total of double your Strength bonus on the first attack and 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus on the other attacks."
Which sets a hard limit to how much damage it can do.
So this does nothing for 2hw, but works well with 1hw like a swashbuckler.

Sczarni

Chess Pwn wrote:

Dragon style and 2hw are giving the same thing. 1.5 str for you damage. Ferocity does add .5str to damage.

but you left out a line in ferocity.
"to a total of double your Strength bonus on the first attack and 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus on the other attacks."
Which sets a hard limit to how much damage it can do.
So this does nothing for 2hw, but works well with 1hw like a swashbuckler.

I didn't catch that initially. Good find!

Thanks guys. So at best, it'd be 2x on the first attack, and 1.5x on the rest of the attacks?


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I believe so, that's why it'd be best with a non-2hw, since you're not getting much if you're already getting 1.5 str.


How does the "your first unarmed strike on a given round" work if you are using multiple types of weapons with Ascetic Style and somehow have pounce?


deuxhero wrote:
How does the "your first unarmed strike on a given round" work if you are using multiple types of weapons with Ascetic Style and somehow have pounce?

Ascetic Style allows you to use Dragon Style with any weapon, because Dragon Style has an effect that augments an unarmed strike.

The 1.5x multiplier applies to the first attack in any round, not just those made with a charge. Pounce isn't necessary, though helpful in and of itself.

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