Mancatcher clarifications needed + use with Ride-by Attack or Aberrant Bloodline


Rules Questions


Mancatcher wrote:

Weapon Features: Reach, Grapple

A mancatcher is built to capture a creature of a particular size category (such as Small or Medium) and doesn’t work on creatures of the wrong size. Make a touch attack to hit an opponent and a combat maneuver check to grapple him (without the –4 penalty for not having two hands free); success means you and the target are grappled, but you do not move into the same space. Once the target is grappled, you can perform a move or damage grapple action against him.

First clarification: Is it immediately after successful grapple that the move or damage grapple action takes place, or is it implying on the next turn? If it is on the same turn, is it safe to assume it as part of the same attack action? Otherwise it would require the standard action you have already used to hit or would require greater grapple to function.

Grappling wrote:

Once you are grappling an opponent, a successful check allows you to continue grappling the foe, and also allows you to perform one of the following actions (as part of the standard action spent to maintain the grapple):

Move:You can move both yourself and your target up to half your speed. At the end of your movement, you can place your target in any square adjacent to you.
Damage: You can inflict damage to your target equal to your unarmed strike, a natural attack, or an attack made with armor spikes or a light or one-handed weapon. This damage can be either lethal or nonlethal.

Second clarification: If I choose to damage grapple action my opponent, I do damage equal to my unarmed, a natural attack I have, armor spikes, or a light or one-handed weapon. My target is stationary 10 feet away because he doesn't move closer when I grapple. The mancatcher is a two-handed polearm, thus it does not qualify. Additionally, it being two-handed means I cannot have a second weapon available, to be the light or one-handed weapon. And armor spikes do not have reach, nor do but a very few unarmed or natural attacks. Is it then indeed equal and not actually caused by that weapon, or do I need to grow 10ft arms to use this option?

Third clarification: If I choose to move grapple action my opponent, normally your target starts in a spot adjacent, and ends in an adjacent spot of your choosing. This makes sense, as they must remain within your reach. However, with a Mancatcher, they start the move 10ft away. Do they remain at the end of the pole, thus end up in some spot 10ft away of your choice, as would make sense but is not stated, or must they absolutely land adjacent, thus automatically ending the grapple because the mancatcher is a reach weapon and can't target adjacent enemies?

Ride-By Attack wrote:
When you are mounted and use the charge action, you may move and attack as if with a standard charge and then move again (continuing the straight line of the charge). Your total movement for the round can't exceed double your mounted speed. You and your mount do not provoke an attack of opportunity from the opponent that you attack.

Fourth Clarification: If the mancatcher's hit+grapple+move/unarmed damage is indeed all one weapon attack, could I do it on a charge? More specifically, could I do it as a Ride-by attack charge i.e. charge, hit-grapple-move him up to half my speed as per the weapon ability, then continue moving in a straight line as per the feat? If so, does the half-speed movement as part of the weapon attack still have to be in the straight line of my charge? Additionally, does it still count as part of my ride-by's total movement for the round?

Abberant Bloodline wrote:
Long Limbs (Ex): At 3rd level, your reach increases by 5 feet whenever you are making a melee touch attack. This ability does not otherwise increase your threatened area. At 11th level, this bonus to your reach increases to 10 feet. At 17th level, this bonus to your reach increases to 15 feet.

Fifth clarification: This bloodline ability would apply even to the mancatcher's melee touch attack correct? So you could grapple them from 15ft(10+5) to eventually 25ft away, 30 with lunge?

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