Ranger in the Abyss


Rules Questions


This is my first post, so be kind. I have done the Search function and looked through the FAQ and have not found an answer. If I've overlooked it, I completely apologize.

My group is playing through Wrath of the Righteous and I'm a 14 Ranger/Mythic 6. We're in the Abyss at the moment, and this is where things get fuzzy.

My Ranger has Evil Outsiders as a favored enemy. My argument is that the term Outsiders is based on the ranger's starting plane, so even if I go to the Abyss, the natural denizens there are still Outsiders to me. (I DO get the Favored Enemies bonus)

My GM's argument is that since the Abyss is the starting plane of the assorted demons, they are NOT considered Outsiders. (I do NOT get the Favored Enemies bonus).

We've both scoured books and resources for an answer, and have been playing by his ruling for now.

Is there some ruling somewhere we've missed, or can we get an official clarification on this?

Thank you for your time.
Stan


Outsider is a different status than extraplanar. When you are on your native plane, you are not considered extraplanar. When you are on a non-native plane, you gain the [extraplanar] subtype. Demons who come to the material plane gain the extraplanar subtype. However, there are also Outsiders that are native to the material plane, such as genies, Aasimars, and Tieflings. They are not extraplanar, since they are on their home plane. They are still outsiders. If they have the [evil] subtype, they still have the [evil] subtype.

In short, yes, you're right.

Outsiders and Extraplanar subtype links here.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

You are correct. Outsider is a type that refers to creatures formed of the essence of planes "outside" the material plane. They do not lose their type just because they are their home plane.

I can only point you to the creature types definitions.


Many thanks, guys. I really appreciate the clarification.

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